2020-26
Louisiana Waterthrush
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Photos are definitive |
2nd round: |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Based on my experience the separation of the
waterthrush species is not always as straight forward as suggested by
field guides and there is often overlap in many of the 'diagnoistic'
characters. Based on the photos, if forced, I'd still call this a
Louisiana (supercilium length and color graduation from buffy up front to
white in back, leg color appears very pick, and throat is unspotted, etc.,
but the photos are poor and I believe the buffy coloration may simply be
an artifact of white balance). |
Kenny F. |
29 Jul 2020 |
Acc |
The bold white rear supercilium, brighter pink
legs, buffy flanks and unspotted white throat with more limited chest
streaking and blacker overall streaking on the underparts favor Louisiana
Waterthrush over Northern. |
2nd round: |
30 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
The comments from Mark and the Texas birders
were convincing that this is a Northern Waterthrush. |
Stephanie
G. |
29 Jul 2020 |
To 2nd |
Hm...pushing it through to
second round here. It's hard to say. Is that a bold white supercilium or
is it buffy? Is the throat streaked? In some photos it looks like there
could be streaking there, but in others it looks plain. The streaking on
the breast doesn't look dense, from my perception its a good field mark
supporting Louisiana. Are those buffy lores there? Would also support
Louisiana. I see where they're coming from but I'm not 100% convinced and
would like to see what others say. |
2nd round: |
26 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
IDeferring to the opinion of those more
experienced with these species. I think the burden of proof is not strong
enough to support Louisiana, although it was a good candidate to explore. |
Mike H. |
15 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Glad there are quite a few photos. I feel the
wide supercilium, buffy lores, and muted streaking are within range for
LOWA. |
2nd round: |
2 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
After reading other s comments, and looking a
little more into this ID, I feel good in changing my previous vote. |
Mike S. |
3 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
I was initially skeptical, but the relatively
sparse breast streaking, apparently unmarked throat, and buff limited to
the flanks establish the ID of Louisiana Waterthrush. I also think that
the width and paleness of the eyebrow stripe favors LOWA over NOWA. |
2nd round: |
25 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
I emailed a couple of "expert"
opinions to Milt to be included with this record. Both of the opinions
I received are in favor of Northern Waterthrush as the ID of this bird.
After receiving this input, I have lost confidence in my first round vote
and I'm fine with deferring to those who have more extensive experience
with both waterthrush species. Mark's first round comments are helpful as
well. |
Bryan S. |
31 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
The eyestripe is wide, but seems to be within
the range for a Northern. Also doesn't appear to be as bright white as a
Louisiana's eyestripe |
2nd round: |
30 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
Sticking with original vote. Thanks Mark for the
nice write-up and additional info by Mike. |
Mark S. |
21 Jul 2020 |
No, ID |
I can see why someone might want to call this a
LOWA - the supercilium is very prominent, and there appears to be a
yellowish wash on the lower flanks, but let's see how it "scores" on my
list of field marks I use to identify the waterthrushes.
Bill - not always clear in the photos, but looks small for LOWA, and more
like NOWA.
Throat spotting - I can't see it well enough to really tell. A partial
view in one photo looks clear, but I can't see enough of the throat to
know for sure. Call it inconclusive.
Supercilium - It's big and prominent, and in some photos looks wider
behind the eye, but in others not so much. In addition, some of the photos
show buff color in front of the eye, that is better for NOWA. I would lean
NOWA on this field mark, but not very strongly - so call it another
inconclusive.
Lower eye-arc - In most photos it looks obvious and white, like LOWA, but
in others more diminutive, more like NOWA. But call this LOWA.
Breast streaking - It's much blacker than the back color, and seems crisp,
taking into account the blurry photos. This favors NOWA.
Flank color - Buffy flanks favors LOWA.
Leg color - I've rarely (if ever) seen a LOWA with legs this dull, but the
appearance varies in the photos, as it does in these species, so perhaps
it's more inconclusive than I think, but I'd call these legs NOWA.
Behavior - no useful information, so inconclusive.
Habitat - presumably a running stream, that would favor LOWA, but hard to
say in Utah, where NOWA can also be along streams. Give it (sightly) to
LOWA.
So here's the score:
NOWA 3
LOWA 3
Inconclusive 3
So the score is perfectly tied.
That, of course, assumes equal weighting of all the field marks. Perhaps
the strongest LOWA mark, the flank color, should override the rest. But
then you'd have to discount leg color, breast streaking, and bill size.
It's an intriguing bird, but I don't think there's enough here to
definitively go against the default waterthrush species for Utah. |
2nd round: |
20 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
As per my first round comments. I see lots of
both of these every year, and though I can understand seeing this as a
LOWA, I don't think this i.d., based upon the evidence we have, is well
enough supported for a bird this rare for Utah. |
Larry T. |
24 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
The photos aren't the greatest but from what I
see it looks like a Northern. |
2nd round: |
2 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Can be difficult but Northern is the right call. |
David W. |
21 Jul 2020 |
No, ID |
Vent area is not contrastingly buffy. Eyebrow stripe gets narrower behind
eye and is the same color as the rest of the bird's underside. Legs don't
look very bright pink. Streaking looks heavy. Bobbing tail was not noted.
Bird was not heard.
Photos look like I took them, so it isn't entirely clear how long the bill
is nor whether the eyebrow stripe is contrastingly buffy in front of the
eye (it almost looks like it might in some of the photos). |
2nd round: |
20 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
I am sticking with my first round vote and
reasoning. Mark did a very good job describing the case to vote against. |
2020-27
Scissor-tailed Flycatcher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent photos (need to include a link to
photos in the record) |
Kenny F. |
27 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Great documentation of this gorgeous rarity. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation and obvious ID. |
Mike H. |
15 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Well documented. |
Mike S. |
1 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Nice record! |
Bryan S. |
31 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Not sure if I am supposed to vote for this or
abstain but glad that lots of others saw it and got pics |
Mark S. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Good description and photos. |
Larry T. |
24 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Wouldn't it be nice to have good pics of every
record. |
David W. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Photos and description clearly show this
species. |
2020-28
Bay-breasted Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
excellent find |
Kenny F. |
27 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Great photos of this long-staying rarity. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Exciting! |
Mike H. |
15 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
If only all photos of rarities were so clear! |
Mike S. |
1 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Great photos of a distinctive male Bay-breasted
Warbler. |
Bryan S. |
31 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Distinctive photos. |
Larry T. |
2 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent photos clearly show a Bay-breasted
warbler. However, I am not sure it is an adult male. Depending on which
field guide you look at (I checked 6), different parts of this bird look
like parts from different genders and ages. What a drag. I am voting on
probable male. |
2020-29
Golden-winged Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Another great record |
Kenny F. |
|
|
|
Stephanie
G. |
25 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Bryant's on a roll! |
Mike H. |
15 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Distinct facial pattern and coloration. |
Mike S. |
1 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Nice record of a very rare warbler for Utah.
The only question could be potential hybridization with a Blue-winged
Warbler. I think I'm seeing a tinge of yellow in the upper-breast in Terry
Reid's photos, which gave me slight pause. However, this is very subtle,
and I don't think this feature alone would necessarily indicate
hybridization. |
Bryan S. |
31 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Distinctive species, and neither the description
nor the photos suggest a hybrid. |
Larry T. |
2 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Nice bird for Pine Lake. Camped there many
times. |
David W. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Nothing else looks like it. |
2020-30
Hudsonian Godwit
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Nice series of photos. Slightly upturned bill,
underwing, & tail pattern rule out more exceptional possibilities. |
Kenny F. |
27 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
The photos of this bird support Hudsonian Godwit
with the black and white tail pattern, bold supercilium and grayer overall
color than the other Marbled Godwits.
Of note, this observer reported a godwit the day before that looked like a
Bar-tailed Godwit. It might be worth it for him to submit that record as
well. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Clear differences between Marbled Godwits |
Mike H. |
15 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Underwing coloration/pattern is diagnostic for
this ID. I do feel strongly that the godwit sp observed on 8/12 is a
different bird, but all photos I ve seen of the individual in question
seem to be the same bird with the one rufous feather on its left side. |
Mike S. |
1 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent documentation by multiple observers. I
was glad to see that the distinctive underwing pattern was captured from
Mike Malmquist's video. |
Bryan S. |
31 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
16 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Good to have a photo (video) showing the
underwing pattern, that firmly establishes this i.d.
Remarkable autumn migration record for Utah. |
Larry T. |
2 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
18 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
The photo of the raised wings from Mike
Malmquist cinches the ID. Very cooperative bird seen by very many people. |
2020-31
Northern Parula
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
nice series of photos |
Kenny F. |
27 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Photos and notes match Northern Parula. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Been a great summer for warblers |
Mike H. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
1 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Everything looks good for a hatch-year Northern
Parula. Good description and photos. |
Bryan S. |
31 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
19 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation; photos show a Northern
Parula. |
Larry T. |
2 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
17 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Clearly this species. |
2020-32
Laughing Gull
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
Very sparse description to distinguish from a
first summer Franklin s Gull. |
Kenny F. |
27 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
Observer doesn't sufficiently rule out
Franklin's Gull and not alerting other birders next to him of the presence
of this potential rarity seems suspicious as well. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
Inadequate documentation; again the observer was
the only one in the group to report a rarity. This seems to be a pattern. |
Mike H. |
1 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
My short answer for this is that the observer is
leaning on size of the bird and mantle color which are very hard to read
correctly with a bird in flight. |
Mike S. |
10 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
I don't think that similar and more likely
species have been adequately eliminated. I would have a difficult time
accepting a flyover gull rarity without photos unless there was an
excellent written description and the observer was known to be extremely
competent. This is especially the case for a potential second state
record. |
Bryan S. |
31 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
|
Mark S. |
19 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
I don't think there's enough to go on here for a
sighting of this rarity. The sighting was brief, and I don't think a
second year Franklin's Gull, that can also show all-black wingtips, can be
eliminated by the description. |
Larry T. |
2 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
Limited description to eliminate similar species
on a flying bird to accept this bird. |
David W. |
18 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
That's a lot of information to glean from a 30
second flyover.
I do not think the record, considering how rarely Laughing gulls are
reported in this state, adequately eliminated an immature Franklin's gull.
Some of the field marks purporting to separate this species from a
Franklins are pretty darn subtle for a quick flyover (that phragmites is
rather far away, so the bird must have made a pretty direct flight over
there). |
2020-33
Cerulean Warbler | resubmission comments
(2021) |
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F.
2nd: |
4 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Timing would be unprecedented for a Cerulean
Warbler in the western states (although there are very few vagrant
Cerulean Warbler records). |
Kenny F. |
27 Aug 2020 |
To 2nd |
While the description sounds convincing, the
committee rules, the observer's lack of experience with this species and
no documentation make this a good record to put on the "hypothetical"
list. |
2nd round: |
30 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
The lack of August records for this species in
the west combined with the other criteria for accepting a state first
species leaves me to vote no on this bird. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Aug 2020 |
No, ID |
A Cerulean Warbler would be hard to misidentify,
however, as others looked in the area all day for this bird, I feel that
it lacks the evidence to vote yes on a state first. |
2nd round: |
26 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
Sticking with my original comments, I feel the
burden of proof has not been established for a state first, without photos
or more than one observer. |
Mike H. |
1 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
There are 4 different criteria to accept a first
state record without physical documentation. 1) Easily differentiated from
other species, 2) Observed by multiple competent birders, and 3) Observer
familiar with species, are criteria that don t apply to this record. I don
t feel there is enough here to accept a first state record. |
2nd round: |
2 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Other than the fact that I can t seem to count,
I still feel there isn t enough documentation to accept this as a first
State record. |
Mike S. |
1 Sep 2020 |
To 2nd |
The description sounds good for
a Cerulean Warbler. All else being equal, if this observation was a month
or two later, I would probably have no issues with accepting this
observation as a hypothetical record.
However, I think the timing of this record deserves some discussion. I
cannot find a single August Cerulean Warbler record west of southern and
eastern Texas. Western September records are almost as scarce. It's not
until October when this species appears to exhibit some westward vagrancy
patterns, with several records from California and one from New Mexico
(according to eBird). One would think that this would be the most likely
month this species would turn up in Utah, at least during the fall. August
20th appears to be an unprecedented observation date for anywhere in the
western U.S.
Additional concerns include the fact that this is a single observer record
with no photos, and the observer apparently does not have previous
experience with this species. The latter concern may not be an issue for a
competent observer looking at an adult male that was apparently seen quite
well, but I think it's still worth considering.
I m open-minded heading into the second round, but I think all of the
above should be considered before accepting a potential first state record
(even as a hypothetical). |
2nd round: |
1 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
In summary:
Single observer record, no photos, observer has no prior experience with
this species, unprecedented timing for a western CERW vagrant.
Based on that combination of factors, I can't bring myself to accept this
as a state first. |
Bryan S.
2nd: |
30 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
I wish that I could accept this record - it
would be great to add to our state list and I agree that a Cerulean is a
hard species to mis-ID, but I think that for a 1st of state there should
zero doubt. With no photos and only one observer I don't think we should
accept the record and it should be placed on the hypothetical list. |
Mark S. |
20 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
The description is detailed, and the time of
observation, distance to bird, etc. sufficient to generate such a detailed
description. As described, similar species can be safely eliminated. There
are no other species that could be mistaken for a well-observed male
Cerulean Warbler.
The only question is if a written description by a single observer is
adequate for a state-first record. Hopefully the bird will be re-found and
photographed. |
2nd round: |
10 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
While I'm convinced by the description that this
could have been a Cerulean Warbler, the lack of physical evidence or other
observations precludes its acceptance as a state-first record. But I also
think that the date is so far out of the normal pattern in the west (May
and October records only) that it also shouldn't be included on the
hypothetical list. There simply isn't enough evidence here to justify
reporting the record as even hypothetical, against the established pattern
of sightings.
Put it on the "IIT" (interesting if true) list. |
Larry T.
2nd: |
23 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Hard to accept a record like this without more
to go on. |
David W. |
21 Aug 2020 |
Acc |
Nice to have a good description of a male. It is
unfortunate that no photo was taken. I
do wish the observer had included more of an argument against the
possibility of a female Black-throated warbler. Unfortunately, the lack of
a white supercilium is implied in the writeup, but not explicitly stated.
I recommend putting the record on the hypothetical list, per IV.C.11 of
the bylaws. |
2nd round: |
13 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Again, I accept this for the hypothetical list.
I also think this record should be re-voted (at least in the second round)
because of the issue I brought up in the RECCOM email regarding how a
first state record without photos or overwhelming evidence should be put
on the hypothetical list in cases where people are using extra (tougher)
criteria simply because this species has never been documented in Utah.
[Note, I am not saying that those voting based on evidence, such as
occurrence dates, fall into the hypothetical list trap, so long as they
would reject a species already on our list for the same reasons as they
are using on this record.] |
2020-33r Cerulean Warbler
Resubmission
comments, (23 Feb 2021) with "on its merits" bylaws change (IV.C.11)
| original comments |
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
10 Apr 2021 |
No, ID |
I support the UBRC's previous decision on
this record. |
2nd round: |
25 Jun 2021 |
No, ID |
See comments under 2008-08r (I really don't have
any problem with the written description of this record (as witnessed by
my original votes to accept in 2008), but as I stated before I will stand
by the UBRC's original decision on this record. I still believe this
process of re-reviewing a few handpicked records (and let's be clear they
were not "re-submitted") is completely arbitrary, lacks in process, and
ultimately undermines the UBRC's credibility. I understand there were some
slight changes in the committee's bylaws, but if we are going to apply
these changes retrospectively, than we should use a systematic process.
Re-reviewing a few records hand selected by the secretary appears
desultory at best.) |
Stephanie
G. |
28 Mar 2021 |
No, ID |
Other observers on the same day were unable to
locate, no photo. I'd like more documentation. |
2nd round: |
24 May 2021 |
No, ID |
Sticking with my original vote for this, as
there is too much doubt involved. The timing for the species as others
point out, seems off, and the fact that it was such a brief encounter that
couldn't be confirmed by other observers close by. |
Mike H. |
22 Mar 2021 |
No, ID |
I used the no physical evidence clause to vote
no on this record the first time around. I still feel this is not enough
to allow this record through on such a species. |
2nd round: |
20 Jun 2021 |
No, ID |
Nothing has changed my thoughts on this record. |
Bryant
O. |
23 Feb 2021 |
No, ID |
I have concerns about the timing of migration,
the fact that no one was able to relocate this bird just a couple hours
after being seen (including me as I was almost exactly where she reported
the bird when the report hit eBird and ubird), and think the possibility
of weird lighting on a female Black-throated Gray Warbler was not
eliminated. |
2nd round: |
26 May 2021 |
No, ID |
Just a little too far fetched to believe,
especially with the timing. Still not convinced they didn't just see a
BTYW in weird light. Bright sunlight reflecting off black feathers can
look blueish. |
Mike S. |
4 Apr 2021 |
No, ID |
Although different circumstances, if I am being
consistent, I have to vote "no" on this record since I am also voting "no"
on the Tufted Duck record. When we reviewed this one the first time
around, I mentioned the following:
"All else being equal, if this observation was a month or two later, I
would probably have no issues with accepting this observation as a
hypothetical record.
However, I think the timing of this record deserves some discussion. I
cannot find a single August Cerulean Warbler record west of southern and
eastern Texas. Western September records are almost as scarce. It's not
until October when this species appears to exhibit some westward vagrancy
patterns, with several records from California and one from New Mexico
(according to eBird). One would think that this would be the most likely
month this species would turn up in Utah, at least during the fall. August
20th appears to be an unprecedented observation date for anywhere in the
western U.S."
The description is a good match for a Cerulean Warbler. However, it is
difficult to accept based on unprecedented timing, which I believe
diminishes the "merits" of this record.
If this record would be limited to the 'Provisional' list upon accepting
at a later (more expected) date, then I have to vote "no" at this early,
unexpected date. |
2nd round: |
4 Jun 2021 |
No, ID |
The observer may well have seen a Cerulean
Warbler. However, I simply don't have a high enough level of confidence to
accept. I'll continue to vote "no" due to unprecedented vagrancy timing
and the fact no one else was able to track down this bird. |
Bryan S. |
11 Apr 2021 |
Acc |
hard to imagine this being anything else |
2nd round: |
19 May 2021 |
Acc |
|
Steve S.
2nd: |
26 Jun 2021 |
No, ID |
I'll stick with the original decision |
Mark S. |
14 Mar 2021 |
Acc |
I think the observer does a good job describing
a distinctive species and differentiating it from others possible,
especially with Black-throated Gray Warblers also present for comparison. |
2nd round: |
6 Jun 2021 |
Acc |
I think the bird was correctly identified, and
spoke with the observer about what she saw. It's not a difficult
identification, and the
bird was well seen. |
David W. |
5 Mar 2021 |
Acc |
I continue to think this description matches nothing but a Cerulean
warbler. Pale blue back with black streaks, thin necklace, streaked
flanks, white throat. Though not explicitly stated that the face lacked
stripes, the observer uses the stripes on a Black-throated as a
distinguishing field mark to eliminate that species. |
2nd round: |
19 May 2021 |
Acc |
Although I have heard some pretty compelling
hearsay naysaying this record, I don't feel comfortable voting on that
second-hand information. I will keep with my original vote, although with
some trepidation. |
2020-34
Long-tailed Jaeger
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice record |
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
The rounded tail feathers, skinny bill and slim
shape and upperwing pattern look best for Long-tailed Jaeger. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
The two white primary shafts and the blunt tips
of the central tail retrices seem to fit for Long-tailed. |
Mike H. |
1 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
The two white primary shafts, smallish bill, and
what appears to be blunt tipped central tail projections point to LTJA. |
Mike S. |
27 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Photos and description establish the ID of
Long-tailed Jaeger and rule out both Parasitic and Pomarine. Nice record! |
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
20 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Although this is a tough i.d., the two white
shafts on the primaries is a pretty convincing field mark in immature LTJA. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice photos. Looks good for a LT. |
David W. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Good photos and description. |
2020-35
Veery
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
This appears to be a young Pacific /
Russet-backed Swainson's Thrush. A Western Veery (salicicolus or
subpallidus) would have darker face with grayish lores, less complete
eye-ring, and brighter white flanks/ belly. |
2nd round: |
11 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
To elaborate on first round comments; back,
wing, and tail coloration on both RB Swainson's and Western Veery and even
breast spotting are nearly identical. The distinguishing characteristics
are face pattern / color and belly / flank coloration. From my experience,
Veery would never show such a complete eye-ring (only a slight expansion
at the rear of eye), would have a grayish face (particularly the lores)
with less contrast, and brighter white belly and flanks. |
3rd round: |
15 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
As per earlier round comments, I believe this is
a Pacific / Russet-backed Thrush based on face pattern and coloration.
I've observed many of these in Nevada and western Utah desert migrant
traps (or perhaps I've seen a few dozen Veery!). |
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show the red overall color and brownish
throat markings of a Veery. |
2nd round: |
5 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Prompted by Rick's comments, I did some more
research into Russet-backed Swainson's Thrush since it is a subspecies I
am unfamiliar with. Upon the second glance, the more complete eyering
looks better for Swainson's rather than the incomplete rear eyering of a
Veery and there should be at least some white showing on the shot of the
belly if it were to be a Veery. |
3rd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Going through all the comments has been
instructive, but to my eye this bird looks better for a Swainson's for the
reasons I mentioned previously. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Photos diagnostic |
2nd round: |
14 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Good catch, I see now that russet-backed
Swainson's thrush cannot be ruled out and is likely what this is. |
3rd round: |
39 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
It's been a back-and-forth for me, but
ultimately the field marks that Mark pointed out in the second round, as
well as the points that Mike Schijf have gotten me back to the side of
Veery. The pale gray loral patch and the pale flanks/underparts seem to be
pretty strong indicators in my perception. |
Mike H. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
6 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
It seems after reading everyone s comments that
I need to pay more attention to subspecies. I agree with Rick s comments
that the coloration, eye ring, and facial coloration fits better for SWTH
(Russet-backed) than Veery. |
3rd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Easy to say that I ve learned quite a bit about
subspecies of VEER and SWTH with this observation. We are all looking at
the same photos, but seeing things differently. I feel the eye ring and
facial pattern better fit the SWTH. |
Mike S. |
27 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
The photos back up the description and establish
the ID, even without a complete view of the underparts. |
2nd round: |
28 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I found a good excerpt from a paper titled Field
Identification of Hylocichla/Catharus Thrushes. Part II: Veery and
Swainson s Thrush, authored by Daniel Lane and Alvaro Jamarillo
The following specifically addresses distinguishing Veery from
Russet-backed Swainson s:
"The key difference is
the face: Swainson's Thrush has a bold buff eye-ring and supraloral area
immediately above the lores that contrasts with the dark lores (resulting
in characteristic spectacles), unlike the more indistinct buffy or pale-gray loral
patch of Veery. Also, the flank coloring of the two species differs: that
of Veery is grayish, whereas Swainson's is washed with buffy-brown (Dunn
and Garrett 1983b), resulting in stronger flank/wing contrast in Veery
than in Swainson's."
This bird appears to be lacking the spectacled appearance of a Swainson s
thrush, and instead has the indistinct pale-gray loral patch of a Veery.
This bird also has significant flank/wing contrast, with very pale
underparts/flanks and less washed buffy-brown than I would expect from a
Swainson s. I also would not describe this bird s eye ring as bold. It's
not obvious to me whether it's a complete eye ring or not, but I think
this would be more obvious on a Swainson s Thrush. At the very least, the
eye ring is more prominent towards the rear, which is consistent with
Veery.
I was prepared to change my vote after reading Rick's comments, but after
reading Mark's comments and doing my own research, I think Veery is the
right call. |
3rd round: |
23 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
It is difficult to accept as a Veery when I know
that Rick is confident in the ID as a Russet-backed Swainson's Thrush,
given his extensive field experience with this subspecies. I have spent
significant time studying photos and digging up anything else I could find
that would assist with the ID. I have been open-minded that this could be
a Swainson's Thrush. However, I can't get around the points in favor of
Veery, which I think far outnumber the points in favor of a Swainson's
(see my second round comment).
I am less confident that the back color is diagnostic for a Veery. I am
open to the argument that various shades of reddish-brown may be the
product of lighting. However, if the back color is within range for a
Russet-backed Swainson's, it is odd that there is not a single photo
online that shows one with this extent of red. Conversely, this is quite
clearly an expected shade of red for a Veery (and perhaps even brighter
red than most western Veery). Based on this, I would think that the back
color strongly suggests Veery at the very least.
Still believe Veery is the correct ID. |
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I am voting to accept for some of the same
reasons Mark listed. I spent a couple of hours looking at photos of the
"russet-backed" swainsons and could not find one photo that showed this
bright of a rusty color on the back. The eyering seems weak for a
swainsons. |
3rd round: |
14 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Sticking with accept per previous comments |
Mark S. |
20 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show a Veery. |
2nd round: |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I appreciate Rick's comments, and it is
instructive to examine more closely both the Pacific subspecies of Swainson's Thrush, and the western subspecies of Veery.
However, I disagree that this is a Pacific Swainson's. I just spend
several hours looking at photos of both Pacific Swainson's and western
Veery, and this bird is a very good fit for Veery, and not so much for
Swainson's.
The points that lead me to this are as follows:
1) I don't see a complete eye ring. I see an eye ring that is obvious at
the back of the eye, and virtually non-existent in front of the eye. That
is perfect for Veery, and not good for Swainson's. Most of the Swainson's
photos I looked at had a much more prominent eye ring on all sides of the
eye than this bird shows.
2) Supraloral stripe - most of the Swainson's photos I examined had a much
better defined buffy supraloral stripe than this bird has, and even a
number of the western Veery photos had more of a stripe. This bird has an
ill-defined gray area that doesn't even get to the bill.
3) Color of the underparts - the lower belly/under tail area is bright
white, and the flanks are almost entirely gray, with only one small, faint
patch of buffy color. That again is perfect for Veery, and not Swainson's.
Swainson's should show much more extensive buffy color to the flanks and
lower belly.
4) Color of the upperparts - I couldn't find a single photo of Pacific
Swainson's Thrush with as bright a rusty color as this bird has. In fact,
many of the western Veery photos showed less bright rustiness. The very
bright rusty edges on the wing coverts are also much better for Veery.
For those reasons, I think the identification of this bird as a Veery is
the correct call. |
3rd round: |
11 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
As per my second round comments - I don't think
the field marks point to SWTH, but are consistent with Veery. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos are good enough for me to eliminate other Catharus thrush's. |
2nd round: |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I'll stay on the accept side from what I see in
the photos and Mark's great points. This is a difficult group to separate
so I can see why there are different opinions on the ID. |
3rd round: |
29 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
This bird shows how difficult the ID can be on a
Catharus thrush. I don't think you would get a unanimous consensus vote on
this one from the best experts in the world. But I will still accept it
from what I see and the comments from others. |
David W. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I am going to vote a soft "Accept." Veery seems
the best fit for this bird, but the evidence is a bit fuzzy around the
edges (especially considering how many subspecies exist in this genus).
There appears to be a hint of warm buff to the flanks in the second photo
(though just a hint), the cheek and throat area is less buffy than I'd
like, and the malar is in the overlap zone between Veery and some other
thrushes. But leg color, back & tail color, lores, and eye ring all
support the ID. It is unfortunate that the breast was not clearly seen.
The photos are excellent for what they do show. |
2nd round: |
20 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I also spent a long time looking at the
different Swainson's thrush & Hermit thrush subspecies. I still think this
is a Veery for the reasons I listed in the first round and Mark mentioned
in the second round. |
3rd round: |
27 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
This is a difficult call, but I agree with Mark
& Mike on this one. |
2020-36
Ruff
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Tentative acceptance based on written description (photos are not very
helpful). |
2nd round: |
15 Nov 2020 |
No ID |
I'll defer to Bryan's first hand knowledge on
this one; the written description is textbook perfect but if you told me
the photos showed a Pectoral Sandpiper and a black & white cat I wouldn't
be able to argue against it ... |
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
The description matches a Ruff and the photo
while poor doesn't show anything that would rule out a Ruff. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
The description is still good enough for a ruff
and rules out other possibilities. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
While photo F seems to be a mistake (Stilt) and
the photos poor, the photos supplemented with description are enough for
me to accept. |
2nd round: |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Going to continue to accept. Even though the
photos are poor, I believe the observer has experience with this species
and was able to see enough field marks. |
Mike H. |
6 Oct 2020 |
To 2nd |
In low lighting, at distance, and windy makes
for a difficult observation. Some of the field marks are good, but would
like to read other s comments before committing to a vote. |
2nd round: |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I agree with most other s opinions on this
observation. Taken as a whole, there is enough to accept. |
Mike S. |
1 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Very blurry photos are difficult to discern, but
seem to give a vague impression of this species. Given the good written
description, length of the observation, and the fact there were multiple
competent observers present, I feel comfortable accepting this record.
I will just point out that Photo F appears to show a Black-necked Stilt
and should probably be removed from this record. |
2nd round: |
16 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I am comfortable accepting based on the good
written description and the competent observers that reported this bird.
Despite the distance, I have no reason to distrust that they saw the field
marks that are described. |
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
The written description is good, but I wonder
about the ability to actually see everything described in the record at
that distance. I visited the causeway the following day and had a tough
time IDing birds closer than this due to the poor light conditions
(admittedly a different time of day may have been better). Also I don't
know how much it should play into the decision, but while I was at the
causeway I spoke with somebody (Lauri?) who said she was there with them
while they were looking at the bird and she couldn't tell the difference
between it and the nearby lesser yellowlegs since it was so far. It could
have been a Ruff but I am skeptical. |
2nd round: |
14 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
swayed by everyone else and really no good
reason for me not to accept |
Mark S. |
20 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Good description, poor photos at least don't
contradict the description. |
2nd round: |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I trust the observer's description, even
considering the distance. Several of the points raised for identification
involved structure, and directly comparable size, that would be less
likely to be distorted by distance and light conditions.
Even though the photos are poor, the bird seems to fit Ruff structurally
better than Lesser Yellowlegs. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Description sounds good for a Ruff. |
2nd round: |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I'll still vote to accept. |
David W. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I agree this sounds like a C. pugnax, but
am not sure whether the bird was a ruff or a reeve. |
2nd round: |
21 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I am not troubled by the fact that another
birder of my generation could not differentiate between a yellowlegs and a
Ruff at great distance. Firstly, young Mr. Watkins has excellent eyesight
and skills, far beyond the average birder. Second, I think we all know
that eyesight generally declines with age (mine sure has), so it shouldn't
be a disqualifying fact that a birder in his optical prime might be able
to glean more out of a scope view than someone of the Baby Boomer
generation. Last time I birded with Mr. Watkins, I felt like selling my
binoculars and applying the money toward a white cane.
I stand by my first round vote. |
2020-37
Buff-breasted Sandpiper
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
marginal photos, but helpful to corroborate
written description. |
2nd round: |
11 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Photos and description match Buff-breasted
Sandpiper. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
No additional comments. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
I'm not sure that Ruff has been effectively
eliminated as an option. |
2nd round: |
11 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Alrighty, I'll suspend my disbelief. :) |
Mike H. |
6 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Description, along with subpar photos, seem to
fit BBSA while eliminating other species. |
2nd round: |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Still think the same. |
Mike S. |
7 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
There appears to be enough detail in these
photos to indicate this species. The written description of field marks
and high-stepping behavior further validates the ID as a Buff-breasted
Sandpiper. |
2nd round: |
16 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
20 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Good description, adequate supporting photos. |
2nd round: |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
The photos are definitive. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice bird. |
2nd round: |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I'll stay with my accept vote. |
David W. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I had not known about the high-stepping walk.
Very interesting. An excellent find! |
2nd round: |
11 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Stephanie rightly points out that a juvenile
female Ruff looks very similar to a Buff-breasted Sandpiper. However, the
record states that the distinctive black crescent was noted under the wing
in flight. Also, the body structure and head shape better fit the latter.
The bill on a female Ruff is longer than what is shown in the photos. The
better European guides do a fine job of differentiating between the two
species. |
2020-38
Parasitic Jaeger
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Beautiful juvenile dark morph Parasitic Jaeger! |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Fortunate the observers were able to get such
close views and photos |
Mike H. |
23 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
If only all records were accompanied by such
photos! |
Mike S. |
1 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Let me get this straight...
A couple of visiting birders from coastal California come to southern Utah
and find a Parasitic Jaeger? Come on...clearly they brought it with them!
Just kidding.
Nice description and definitive photos, especially Rick's excellent shots.
This bird was last reported on September 23rd. |
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent documentation and photos. |
David W. |
15 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Good record. Rick's photos, as always, are
amazing, and help to make the case |
2020-39
Pomarine Jaeger
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Marginal record but I guess description of
"fairly long, slightly trailing, spoon-shaped, rudder-like tail" would be
definitive for a Pomarine Jaeger |
2nd round: |
15 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Very marginal record and I'll defer to others
first-round comments; distinguishing Parasitic / Pomarine Jaegers isn't
trivial for experienced birders let alone first time observers. There
really is very little to go on for such a rare sighting. |
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
The description doesn't fully eliminate
Parasitic Jaeger. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
I still don't think Parasitic was thoroughly
eliminated. The lack of experience of the observer and the short
observation time are also troubling for a jaeger.
There is no mention of the bill which is bicolored in Pomarine and it
sticks out when viewing one since it contrasts with the dark face. Also no
mention of the broadness of the wings either. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I'm accepting with hesitation because of the
lack of photos, but a spoon-shaped tail would be hard to misidentify. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Agree with Mark, the tail shape should be pretty
definitive, even for an inexperienced birder. |
Mike H. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I ve contemplated this observation for some
time. Over and over trying to think what he possibly could ve observed
other than the reported species. However, the description of the tail in
combination with the length of time observed, I can t come to any other
conclusion. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
I still can t imagine the observer saw anything
except what he described. |
Mike S. |
7 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
This may well have been a Pomarine Jaeger. The
description of the tail is most compelling.
However, I have an uneasy feeling about this record. Given that this
observer had no prior experience with any of the Jaeger species, and the
bird was not observed for an extended length of time (and only in flight),
makes me want to err on the side of caution here. The barrel-chested
impression would certainly match this species, but even this is a relative
field mark.
When you consider that this is the most rare of the 3 Jaeger species in
Utah (combined with what I noted above), I would rather play it safe with
this one. |
2nd round: |
13 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
I'm still not confident enough in this record to
accept, mainly due to the relatively brief observation, the observer's
inexperience with jaegers, and the description that is lacking in detail
(specifics are mentioned by Kenny and Mark).
I understand the argument to accept. The tail description, as written,
does best match a Pomarine Jaeger. However, I'm personally having a
difficult time basing the ID (to a high degree of confidence) on that
single field mark, given the other considerations I noted above. |
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I don't think the description is good enough to
rule out the other Jaegers other than the tail description but I decided
to accept it based on the "spoon-shaped" tail. |
2nd round: |
14 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Agree that the description is lacking, but the
description of the tail seems diagnostic even without mentioning other
points. |
Mark S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
This is a weak vote to accept, based upon the
observed size comparison to gulls and the tail shape. I'm troubled by the
observer's lack of experience with jaegers, and the failure to note some
definitive features, such as bill, undertail coverts, etc.
If others have reservations about this record, I will have no hesitation
to change my vote. |
2nd round: |
16 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Still not a high degree of confidence, but an
adult bird with visible spoon-shape tail streamers should be definitive,
even for an inexperienced observer. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Description sounds good for a Pom. |
2nd round: |
9 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
I'll still accept on the description. |
David W. |
22 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I wish the observer was more specific about how
long those central rectrices stuck out, but the combination of field marks
do seem to eliminate other possibilities. |
2nd round: |
12 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
As per first round. |
2020-40
Blackpoll Warber
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice definitive photos. |
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent pics of this vagrant. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
pretty clear record |
Mike H. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
7 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent photos and nice description match a
Blackpoll Warbler. |
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation and photos. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
14 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
The photos clearly show pale/pink feet & legs,
white undertail contrsating with yellow-tinged vent, and vague streaking
on flanks. |
2020-41
Vaux's Swift
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Marginal, but adequate, description. |
2nd round: |
15 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
As Vaux's Swift. I'm not sure why it wound be
relevant to accept as 'Chaetura sp.' Also Vaux's Swifts are regular
migrants (both spring and fall) through Utah and perhaps we should
consider removing them from the review list.
And regarding David's comments, probability should absolutely be
considered when reviewing records. . |
Kenny F. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Description, while not the most thorough, seems
to favor Vaux's Swift vs Chimney. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
While the first 2 weeks of May are the most
likely time to see Vaux's Swifts in Utah, this description doesn't
thoroughly rule out Chimney Swift. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
I don't feel the description is detailed enough
to accept. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Continue to say no on this one -- I don't think
the description is detailed enough to accept. |
Mike H. |
10 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
It seems he observed a chaetura species, but the
lack of details eliminating other, less likely species is lacking. The
overall size of the bird is one field mark that the observer is mainly
leaning on to differentiate between Vaux s and the much less likely
Chimney, but I feel in a mixed flight of swallows this can be very
misleading. I ve looked through flocks of hundreds of swifts in the Amazon
and thought there were at least 5 species present due to size of birds
being observed, but photos later revealed there was only 1 species
present. A guess at size is not enough. |
2nd round: |
25 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
I m sticking with my first round vote. Nothing
has been stated to make me feel different. |
Mike S. |
7 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
This was probably a Vaux's Swift, but I don't
think the ID has been adequately established based on the description. In
addition, there was no real effort to rule out the much less likely
Chimney Swift. |
2nd round: |
13 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
I don't see much in the description to
confidently rule out a Chimney Swift.
I don't have any issues with using "likelihood" as a criteria to accept or
not. However, I don't think it should be a standalone consideration when
there are other, less likely, similar species that are still within a
reasonable realm of possibility. |
Bryan S. |
30 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Accepting on the assumption that it is a Vaux's
and not a Chimney just because it was Utah, but the observer doesn't
really address the possibility |
2nd round: |
24 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
There are more than 20 accepted Vaux records and
more than 50 sightings. We have a total of 2 chimney records in the last
50+ years. Only one sighting ever on ebird. I agree that it is not a good
idea to ID a bird based on range, but with how hard these two species are
to ID, and how common one is here and the other so rare here I do not
think it is a problem to accept it based on range in this case |
Mark S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Documentation here is barely adequate, and
doesn't offer much to separate it from similar Chimney Swift, other than
pale throat (that Chimney Swift can show), and silent flight.
But Vaux's is much more likely than Chimney Swift, so perhaps this scant
evidence is enough. |
2nd round: |
16 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
On further reflection, I think this should be
left as Chaetura sp. Range is always an untrustworthy field mark, and
especially so for a rare bird records committee. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Sounds good for a Chaetura Swift but I'll accept
it as a Vaux's. |
2nd round: |
9 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Voting to accept to Chaetura Species is probably
the prudent way to go. |
David W. |
22 Sep 2020 |
To 2nd |
The only difference between this description and
a Chimney swift is the size. The Chimney swift is the same size (length)
as a Violet-green swallow, which the observer said were a bit bigger.
Although a Vaux swift is more likely, I am troubled by the paucity of
differentiating field marks. The observer notes the chin was paler than
the dark body, which describes the Chimney swift better (if one assumes
the standard definition of "chin" in birds). |
2nd round: |
11 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Is no one else alarmed by just how many of the
first round votes are to accept, but without adequate confidence to say
for sure that the record adequately differentiates between a Vaux's and a
Chimney swift? How come sometimes we demand iron-clad evidence for a
species-level ID and other times we are OK with "odds are this is the
reported species?" (i.e. "Yeah, probably."). I propose we should be more
consistent. The vote should be consistent with the comment. |
2020-42 Red
Phalarope
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos are helpful |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Thick bill and larger size than nearby
Red-necked Phalarope look good for Red Phalarope. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I know there has been some discussion about this
bird, but that bill just is so thick, I don't see how it could be a
Red-necked. Examining further, looking at how it rides higher in the
water, with the chest mostly above the water line and the tail cocked
upward also points to Red. Finally, blackish tertials with crisp buff
fringes are apparent. Photos she posted to Facebook seem to have uploaded
with more detail. |
Mike H. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike
S. |
7 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Difficult to see plumage details such as back
streaking, and some of these photos aren't very helpful. However, the
apparent larger size than nearby Red-necked Phalaropes and the fairly
thick bill make this a Red Phalarope. Photos B and B1 are most helpful.
|
Bryan S. |
24 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark
S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Thick bill visible in the photos eliminates
other phalaropes. |
Larry T. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David
W. |
22 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Size & thick bill support the ID. |
2020-43
Blue-headed Vireo
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
This appears to be a bright Cassin's Vireo; BH
would show brighter contrast between crown/ nape and back color and throat
color. |
2nd round: |
15 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
This bird looks like a bright Cassin's as the
head doesn't seem dark enough and doesn't seem as contrasting that would
be expected on a Blue-headed Vireo. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
No additional comments. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
I think it's a good candidate, but without
seeing the throat, I don't think we can cinch the ID here. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Definitive ID marks not able to be confirmed. |
Mike H. |
23 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
There was an additional photo attached to the
eBird checklist that showed the throat area better. In that (now missing)
photo it showed the delineation between the white throat and grayish head
to be smudged more so than I would expect in a true BHVI. |
2nd round: |
26 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
|
Mike
S. |
7 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
I don't think there is enough detail in the
photos or description to to rule out a bright Cassin's Vireo. In addition
to the back/head contrast I would have liked to see something about the
contrast between the throat and auriculars, which is lacking from the
description. |
2nd round: |
28 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Likely a bright Cassin's. |
Bryan S. |
24 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
I believe this bird is a Cassins, or maybe
inconclusive at best. There is no white-throat visible in photos and not
in description. She mentions bright yellow flanks, but the photos seem to
so dingy, greenish flanks. |
2nd round: |
30 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
|
Mark
S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
I don't think that a bright fall Cassin's can be
eliminated. The photos aren't really clear enough to show a sharply
divided gray head and olive back, and none of the photos show the throat
boundary between gray head and white throat. It would be good to see photo
"B" cropped, for a closer view. |
2nd round: |
11 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Not enough here to eliminate Cassin's. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
The photos are not a lot of help but I will
accept it on the description. |
2nd round: |
9 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
I guess everyone is seeing more in the photos
than I. I'll change my vote to not accept on the description alone. |
David
W. |
22 Sep 2020 |
No, ID |
Looks like a very bright Cassin's vireo to me. The photos are very small,
but I do not see the sharp contrast between the gray auriculars on the
face with the white throat, nor do the flanks seem adequately bright
yellow. |
2nd round: |
26 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Still voting for bright Cassins vireo (see first
round comments). |
2020-44
Ovenbird
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice record |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Gorgeous shots of this bird! |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Great record |
Mike H. |
23 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Great photos. |
Mike
S. |
7 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent photos leave no doubt. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark
S. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent photos. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David
W. |
22 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Incredible photos. |
2020-45
Blackpoll Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Appears to be a big year for Blackpoll Warblers
in the west. |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Well documented rarity that stayed for an
unusually long time, about a week. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Pretty straightforward to me |
Mike H. |
6 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos clearly show a Blackpoll Warbler. |
Mike
S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Another nice record of a Blackpoll Warbler.
There are lots of photos of this one on eBird. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark
S. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David
W. |
22 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I'm one of the ones who heard it sing. |
2020-46
Blackburnian Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
great series of photos |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
While I would have liked to see a better picture
of the back to look for striping, all the other field marks point to
Blackburnian including the dark cheek surrounded by yellowish supercilum
and throat, bold white wingbars, white undertail covert and streaked
flanks. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Photos seem to eliminate other species.
Undertail pattern fits, diagnostic triangle facial pattern. |
Mike H. |
6 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Believe this to be a first year male with darker
legs and black starting to appear in the auriculars. |
Mike
S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
The photos show a warbler with gray auriculars
and lores surrounded by a yellow throat and supercilium, two bold white
wingbars, faint streaking on sides, a very pale belly and undertail
coverts, and a fairly prominent lower eye arc. Photo F (and F1) also gives
us a glimpse of the underside of the tail, showing mostly white with dark
outer edges.
All of this adds up to Blackburnian Warbler as the identity of this bird,
apparently a hatch-year individual.
Excellent job by the observer getting photos of multiple angles.
September was an incredible month for rarities at Sand Hollow - not a
place I would have guessed would attract a state first Blackburnian
Warbler.
Too bad that this bird didn't stick around for more observers. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark
S. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show a Blackburnian Warbler. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David
W. |
22 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Mysteriously, the write-up makes no attempt to differentiate this bird
from a Townsend's, but the photos compensate for that omission. |
2020-47
Northern Parula
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
nice record |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Can't ask for better photos, measurements and
field marks! |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Straightforward |
Mike H. |
23 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike
S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good photos of a bird in hand show a Northern
Parula. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark
S. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent documentation. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David
W. |
23 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
I'm just going to assume all those measurements
provided in this report are consistent with the photos and description,
which show a Northern parula. |
2020-48
Red Phalarope
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
nice photos |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Thick bill and solid gray back confirm Red
Phalarope. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Thick bill, buffy edges to blackish primaries,
pale base of bill |
Mike H. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show a phalarope with a fairly thick bill
with a hint of red at the base, and an unstreaked back. This combination
establishes the ID of Red Phalarope and ruled out the similar Red-necked. |
Bryan S. |
24 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Another fine find by Bryant. Both the photos and
the write-up are convincing. |
2020-49
Hudsonian Godwit
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
blurry, but definitive photos |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos match a breeding plumage Hudsonian
Godwit. Is it possible that this is same bird as the fall bone? |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Chestnut colored underparts diagnostic |
Mike H. |
25 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Poor photos seem to show a color pattern and
paler head that would indicate a Hudsonian. The observer s experience with
Hudsonian is also helpful. |
Mike S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Given the poor quality of these photos, I wish
that the observer had taken the time to mention Bar-tailed Godwit in the
similar species section. However, this may not have been necessary in the
end based on the description (particularly the paler head contrasting with
the body, and the details of the bill). It's probably fortuitous that this
bird was a male in breeding plumage.
I think that other, more likely possibilities have been adequately
eliminated. |
Bryan S. |
24 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good description from an observer experienced
with the species. Photos, though poor, support the written account. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
26 Sep 2020 |
Acc |
Marginal photos were decisive when combined with
sparse write-up. One can make out strongly contrasting white undertail
coverts, which support the ID. Nice find! |
2020-50
Kentucky Warbler
(non-public info: Jeana Shaw,
1699 E. Wolf Hole Dr., St. George, UT 84790, shawseano@goldenwest.net)
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Definitive photos |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Amazing backyard bird! |
Stephanie
G. |
3 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I was a bit skeptical at first due to the rarity
of the bird and the lack of description and context. However, I emailed
the observer and she provided additional photos. It seems to be a
legitimate sighting and obviously a Kentucky Warbler in the photos. |
Mike H. |
25 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
The bird in the photo appears to be a Kentucky
Warbler. |
Mike S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Very limited written description, but the photos
are diagnostic. Great record. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show a Kentucky Warbler. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
A bit reminiscent of the Bachman's warbler, but
the clear yellow breast eliminates that possibility. Much better fit for a
Kentucky warbler. Wow. |
2020-51 Magnolia Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Present through October 1st |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Exceptional photos of this beautiful bird. |
Stephanie
G. |
1 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Great record |
Mike H. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Great find by the Sommerfelds.
This bird was last reported on eBird on October 1st. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation; photos show diagnostic
features well. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
That back in those amazing photos is much
greener than any of my field guides show. Was that color boosted or was
this bird just living right? |
2020-52 Brown
Thrasher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice photos |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Great photos of a Brown Thrasher. |
Stephanie
G. |
1 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Great record |
Mike H. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Diagnostic photos |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show a Brown Thrasher. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice. |
2020-53 Brown
Thrasher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good photo |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Another well documented Brown Thrasher.
Something of an irruption this fall with at least 4 different sightings. |
Stephanie
G. |
3 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Great find |
Mike H. |
2 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
16 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show a Brown Thrasher. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
May be getting time to take this bird off the
review list? |
David W. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good photos eliminate all other possibilities. |
2020-54 Gilded
Flicker
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
11 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
I believe this is a HY female Northern Flicker.
At first glance, several of the subtle characteristics shown in the photos
favor Gilded Flicker (crown, breast spotting & crescent, back pattern),
however, on closer examination it appears the crown color fades and is
less distinct towards the rear. Also interesting the observer makes no
note of the tail / wing feather coloration. |
2nd round: |
15 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
I think this is a hybrid with a Red-shafted
Northern Flicker. Although the cinnamon brown cap, thinner barring on the
top of the back and the oval shape of the black patch on the chest look
good for Gilded, there seems to be some brown in the mustachial area of
the flicker which would seen to indicate some Red-shafted genes as would
the location. Gilded flickers are very habitat specific and don't tend to
found at higher elevations ever, so I wouldn't expect one to be at 8700
feet. The observer also didn't see the colors of the underwings or tail
which would have helped with the id. |
2nd round: |
8 Dec 2020 |
No, ID |
No additional comments. |
Stephanie
G. |
3 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
I don't think we can effectively rule out female
Northern Flicker. The forehead does look fairly cinnamon, but the crown
seems to be more gray brown. No description about yellow underwings. |
2nd round: |
22 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Unlikely for a pure Gilded to be this far out of
range and habitat. Without description or photo of underwings, I have to
continue to decline this sighting as Northern Flicker or hybrid cannot
effectively be ruled out. |
Mike H. |
27 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
Coloration of breast on Gilded would be more
uniform pale. The undertail is clearly pale on this individual while the
breast is grayish. This indicates Northern. |
2nd round: |
27 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
|
Mike S. |
16 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
This bird appears to show a couple of traits
that would be consistent with a Gilded Flicker. However, we cannot see the
color of the underside of the wings or tail. Also, I believe the brown
nape would be more contrasting on a GIFL, and should extend further down
towards the back.
Unfortunately, there is basically no written description to help us fill
in the details for some of the field marks that are not visible in the
photos.
In addition, the high elevation habitat (8750 ft.) would be unprecedented
for a Gilded Flicker, which is known to be confined to lowland desert
areas. |
2nd round: |
19 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
Continuing to vote no for reasons previously
stated. |
Bryan S. |
14 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
I think that the cinnamon crown seems to be
fading to gray in towards the back and would be brighter in Gilded. Do not
think it is diagnostic in this bird. Description is lacking - no mention
of yellow wings? |
2nd round: |
30 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
This looks like a female Northern Flicker. The
chest patch and shape of the spots on the lower belly are better for NOFL,
and the head pattern is not definitive.
The location, altitude, and habitat would be very odd for GIFL. |
2nd round: |
25 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
As per my first round comments. |
Larry T. |
9 Nov 2020 |
To 2nd |
I wish I could see a little more in the pics
like tail and shaft color. What a can see does look good for a Gilded but
the lacking description and the location make this a difficult one to
accept in the first round.
Maybe someone can help convince me. |
2nd round: |
29 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
That was easy. |
David W. |
26 Oct 2020 |
No, ID |
There is support for the ID: the oval shape of
the breast patch and the thin barring on the pale nape.
However, the breast spots are fairly round rather than crescent shaped and
the observer didn't mention whether the color on the underside of the
wings/tail was yellow or salmony (which would seem like a fairly obvious
field mark to note). Sadly, the photos don't show the underwing color
either.
I do not think the case was made convincingly, especially for a bird found
in such an alpine, wooded habitat. I would expect to see Utah Gilded
flickers in Joshua trees rather than aspen and fir/spruce forest. |
2nd round: |
16 Nov 2020 |
No, ID |
I still believe there are no field marks
presented for this bird which would conclusively argue for a Gilded
flicker. |
2020-55 Brown
Thrasher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Thorough description |
Kenny F. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Description matches Brown Thrasher. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Description and experience seem to rule out
other species. |
Mike H. |
25 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good description. |
Mike S. |
31 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good description. The observer does well to
eliminate similar species. |
Bryan S. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent description. Seems like these are in
style this year . . . |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
4 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
I'd like to have even one species of thrasher
coming to my feeder. |
2020-56 Boreal Owl
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
11 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice record |
Kenny F. |
5 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Great photos of this species. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
5 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
This is clearly a breeding species in a handful
of counties. The rarity of observations has more to do with access to
habitat when this species is easier to find than overall scarcity. |
Mike S. |
16 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Awesome photos make this one easy. |
Bryan S. |
10 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Excellent description and photos. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice photos |
David W. |
9 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Amazing photos show pale bill, white in facial
disc rim, etc. |
2020-57 Black-throated
Blue Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
11 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Looks good for a female Black-throated Blue
Warbler. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
31 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos show a female Black-throated Blue
Warbler. |
Bryan S. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good description; photos show distinctive face
pattern. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
11 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good photos tell the tale |
2020-58 Broad-billed
Hummingbird
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
15 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Gorgeous shots of this southern rarity. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
25 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
16 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice photos clearly show a Broad-billed
Hummingbird. |
Bryan S. |
14 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
15 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation and photos; unmistakable. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
20 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photos tell the tale. |
2020-59 Brown
Thrasher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
15 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
The fall Brown Thrasher irruption continues. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Well-documented |
Mike H. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mike S. |
19 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Another good Brown Thrasher record. Excellent
fall for this species, it seems. |
Bryan S. |
14 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
11 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Good documentation. |
Larry T. |
23 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
21 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
How many Brown thrashers this year? We have four
in the first round right now.
Clearly this species based on photo and description. |
2020-60 Hooded
Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
15 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
8 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Great documentation of this long staying rarity. |
Stephanie
G. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Photographed and well-documented by numerous
observers |
Mike H. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Well documented and observed by many. |
Mike S. |
31 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Nice photos show a distinctive male Hooded
Warbler. |
Bryan S. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
11 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
Overwhelming documentation. Would have been a
yard bird for me . |
Larry T. |
29 Nov 2020 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
26 Oct 2020 |
Acc |
Good photos leave no doubt on this distinctive
species (for males). Seen & heard by many. Excellent find by Pomera. |
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