2012-01 Snowy Owl
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
21 Jan 2012 |
Acc |
WOW |
Rick F. |
24 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
4 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
21 Jan 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
29 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
Unmistakable from
photo! |
Terry S.. |
21 Jan 2012 |
Acc |
Fantastic photo.
This has been an irruption year for snowy owls and the observer captured a
great image with good equipment. |
Jack S.. |
21 Jan 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
24 Jan 2012 |
Acc |
Unless someone's a real master with Photoshop, that's a Snowy Owl, and
that's the Antelope Island Causeway. |
David W. |
23 Jan 2012 |
Acc |
I vote to accept this record based on the beautiful photo. I take it from
the e-mail address that the person reporting the owl was a hunter.
Excellent. |
2012-02 Lesser Black-backed Gull
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
1 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
|
Rick F. |
24 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
Great record |
Steve H. |
4 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
27 Jan 2012 |
Acc |
No doubt for me on
the identification, but I thought the age was worth a comment: Fourth
winter seems likely because of the extent of black on the bill, but I'm
not sure enough is known about bill color and age in Lesser Black-backed
Gulls to confidently eliminate older ages. Howell and Dunn (2007) show a
particularly well-marked bill on an adult-plumaged bird and say,
"Extensive black bill markings may indicate a fourth-cycle bird." In the
species description they describe bills of non-breeding adults as having
"typically a variable blackish distal mark or band." In my opinion, this
would be best considered "adult" or "age 4+". |
Ron R. |
29 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
Dark coloring on
head and size eliminates similar gulls with yellow legs. |
Terry S.. |
8 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
|
Jack S.. |
5 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
11 Mar 2012 |
Acc |
Not the best photos, but the comparison with the California Gulls is
useful, and when coupled with the observer's report of leg & eye color, I
think we have enough to accept. |
David W. |
1 Feb 2012 |
Acc |
|
2012-03 Neotropic Cormorant
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
13 Apr 2012 |
No, ID |
There are several things that bother me about this bird. The description
certainly sounds most like a Neotropic. However I believe it is difficult
to totally judge size when there are no Double-crested Cormorants around
for comparison. I also have to confess that I cannot definitely see the
white margin on the face. Most troubling is the bird in flight. It appears
to me to have a fairly significant kink in the neck, which strongly
suggests Double-crested. I would like to see what others have to say about
this bird. |
2nd round: |
13 May 2012 |
No, ID |
David may well have a unique approach to voting on this bird, but I feel I
can only vote on the basis of the information provided in the report, and
that bird appears to me to be a Double-crested Cormorant. Can David be
sure that he was really seeing the same bird? |
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
No, ID |
photos and
description are marginal. Diagnostic bare parts are not discussed in the
description. Flight porportions (tail vs. head/neck length) in photos
appear closer to DC Cormorant. |
2nd round: |
31 May 2012 |
No, ID |
DC Cormorants can show white gular edging as well. Also I believe the
photo shows a .Double-crested Cormorant |
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
6 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
Too many concerns to accept. |
Ryan O. |
22 Mar 2012 |
Acc |
In addition to the
distinguishing marks described, the long tail shown in flight by this bird
identifies it as a Neotropic Cormorant. |
2nd round: |
18 May 2012 |
Acc |
In evaluating this record in the first round, I thought the bird looked
like a Double-crested in structure, so I measured the ratio of tail length
to head/neck length in five photographs of each species found online. I
didn't keep the data, but I found the ratio of the bird in these
photographs was well within the range shown in the five photos I selected
of Neotropic, and was outside the range shown by Double-crested. |
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
No, ID |
While this
individual may well be a neotropic cormorant, I don't feel the record
safely eliminates double-crested cormorant. DC cormorants can show some
white edging to the gape and the definitive markings, smaller, more angled
throat patch that does not encompass the eye is neither discussed nor
apparent in the photos. The size was not compared to DC cormorant and was
only an impression of the observer. |
2nd round: |
27 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Not enough evidence to eliminate double-crested. |
Terry S.. |
17 Apr 2012 |
No, ID |
When there is no
other species of cormorant present it is difficult to evaluate relative
size. Photo A enlarged looks a lot like a Double-crested Cormorant with
the tail shorter than the extended neck and head. I wish there was more to
detail given than just white in the gape. |
2nd round: |
18 May 2012 |
No, ID |
As per my first round comments |
Jack S.. |
1 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Description
sufficient to distinguish from D.-crested.
Photo supports tail length >= neck length. |
2nd round: |
6 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
I agree with others that this record and photographs are marginal.2012-11 |
Mark S. |
25 Mar 2012 |
No, ID |
I'd like to see some discussion on this record. Structurally, it looks
much more like a Double-crested Cormorant in the photos, with heavy
head/neck and short tail. Also, although it's hard to tell from the
photos, the shape of the gular pouch seems more like Double-crested
Cormorant. I can't see the white border in the photos, so the only thing
that supports the i.d. is the observer's report of the white border, and
the impression of the bird's size (not very reliable). From the photos
alone, I'd call this a Double-crested. I think there's enough question
here to go to a second round. |
2nd round: |
9 May 2012 |
No, ID |
I still think the bird in the photos looks much more like a Double-crested
than a Neotropic. The head and neck look much too heavy, and the tail too
short. The facial structures/features are not well enough visible in the
photos, or described clearly enough in the written description to be
useful. As others noted, the presence of white alone is not diagnostic.
Here in the land of almost-all-cormorants-are-Neotropic, a bird that
presented the shape that I see in the flight photo would cause me to do a
double-take, looking for it to be a Double-crested.
I think there is enough doubt here to question this record. |
David W. |
22 Mar 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
9 May 2012 |
Acc |
I agree with the nay-voters that the photos are anything but convincing.
I personally voted yes based on the fact that I went out a couple days
later and refound the bird and confirmed with my own eyes that it was a
Neotropical cormorant, both structurally and in a broad white outline to a
tapering gular patch. I don't know whether you all are allowed to vote on
my observations or not, seeing as I did not submit them in a write-up, but
it certainly affected my vote. |
2012-04 Lesser Black-backed Gull
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
13 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Excellent description and photos |
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
4 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Nice photos and
description clearly ID this species. Size and head streaks safely
eliminate yellow-footed gull. |
Terry S.. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Jack S.. |
1 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Nice photographs! |
Mark S. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Nice documentation & photos. |
David W. |
4 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Excellent photos. Especially useful was Photo C, which clearly showed the
single subterminal white spot on the wing tip. The observer did a fine job
eliminating similar species. |
2012-05 Neotropic Cormorant
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
13 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
5 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Excellent photo
clearly shows this species. |
Terry S.. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Jack S.. |
15 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
5 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
I am voting to accept also because sharp-tipped feathers on mantle and the
long tail relative to body. |
2012-06 Neotropic Cormorant
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
13 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Great photos |
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
8 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Photos clearly show
this species. |
Terry S.. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Jack S.. |
15 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Great Photographs! |
Mark S. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
9 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Great photos. |
2012-07 Black-throated Blue Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
13 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
We are spoiled in wanting photos, but I feel this description certainly is
definitive enough to accurately confirm the identifidation. |
2nd round: |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
31 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
6 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
8 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
18 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Description
consistent with black-throated blue warbler male. Bright white undertail
and very white underwings not consistent with this species, but probably
reflect undertail coverts, tail spots and ligher underwing color. |
2nd round: |
27 May 2012 |
Acc |
My first round comments still apply. |
Terry S.. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
While not all field
marks were noted in this record I believe enough was given for this very
distinctive species. |
2nd round: |
18 May 2012 |
Acc |
Even though the white wing patch was not mentioned I believe enough
detail was given for this distinctive species |
Jack S.. |
15 May 2012 |
No, ID |
I'd like to hear the
committee suggestions on this record.
The detailed description of upper wing does not mention a white patch at
the base of the primaries, which should be quite obvious for an adult male
bird. |
2nd round: |
21 May 2012 |
Acc |
OK! |
Mark S. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
He missed the white spot on the wing, which would have been diagnostic,
but for such a distinctive species (at least for the male), other species
are adequately eliminated by the description. |
2nd round: |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
Although I am troubled by the fact that the white patch on the wing was
not mentioned, I believe that this mark would be easily overlooked on such
a striking bird by an observer not experienced with the species. The other
field marks noted are sufficient to positively this distinctive species. |
David W. |
9 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
I see no other option. |
2012-08 Neotropic Cormorant
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
13 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
I have had the feeling for the last two years that we may be voting more
that once for the same bird when it comes to Neotropic Cormorants. I feel
there is no question as to the correct identification of these birds, but
we are seeing so many reports and numerous people are seeing the birds
that I at this point wonder if this bird should still be on our reporting
list. |
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
16 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Written description
is very sparse and does not eliminate similar species, but photographs are
diagnostic. |
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Photos clearly show
this species. |
Terry S.. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
I wonder if we have
enough records of this species to consider eliminating it from the
reportable species list. |
Jack S.. |
15 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Is it time yet to take this species off of the review list? |
David W. |
17 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Accepted on basis of photos. Based on the photos, these look like
different birds from the bird in the 2012-05 record. |
2012-09 Common Redpoll
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
20 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
Great bird, especially this late. Diagnostic photo. |
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
20 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
The written record
makes no attempt to eliminate Hoary Redpoll from consideration, but I
believe the size of the bill and the extent and density of the streaking
in the cheeks and sides that are evident in the photo eliminate that
species. |
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Description and
photo clearly indicate redpoll. Bold streaking on underparts, dark head,
and large bill eliminate hoary redpoll. |
Terry S.. |
2 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Jack S.. |
1 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
19 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
The description is not adequate to confirm this as a redpoll, let alone
distinguish common from hoary, but the photo clearly shows a Common
Redpoll. |
David W. |
24 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
2012-10 Neotropic Cormorant
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
24 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Rick F. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
24 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Photos clearly show
this species. Records 2012-05, 2012-08 and 2012-10 should be combined as
they are likely the same birds in the same location. |
Terry S.. |
2 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Jack S.. |
1 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
23 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
David W. |
24 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
|
2012-11 Tricolored Blackbird
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
24 Apr 2012 |
Acc |
I have to admit that I have struggled a bit with this bird. Something this
rare needs good documentation. However I have to believe that this really
is a Tricolored Blackbird. A few days ago I spent considerable time
photographing Red-winged Blackbirds, and I have several good photos to
compare with this bird. This bird has an has a glossy appearance which is
obvious in the photos. Red-wings do not have this, and there is no
evidence of this in any of my photos. It is a bit difficult to compare the
bills from this photo and mine, but I believe this bill is narrower. The
tail bothers me a little as it is not as square tipped as I believe it
should be. If one looks closely at the wing color, there is a tiny bit of
yellowish between the red and the white, but it is minimal. The red on the
wing is definitely redder than on the pictures that I took. Therefore I am
voting yes. |
2nd round: |
10 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
You all have me convinced that this is not a Tricolored Blcakbird, so I
have changed my vote. However I am not convinced that this is a pure
Redwing Blackbird. Tricoloreds are expanding their range in Washington
state, now being found in the southeast corner of the state. It seems very
possible that we could be seeing some hybrids in this area. The glossy
coat which seems to be present in the photo still bothers me. |
Rick F. |
31 May 2012 |
No, ID |
|
2nd round: |
2 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
I believe the photo clearly shows a Red-winged Blackbird, and as others
have pointed out, lacks several key characters for Tricolored Blackbird |
Steve H. |
29 Apr 2012 |
No, ID |
The shoulder patch of male Tricolored Blackbird is bright red, not
orange-red as shown on the bird in this photo, which is typical for male
Red-winged Blackbird. Red-winged Blackbirds in Utah sometimes have a
shoulder patch edged in white rather than yellow, so it is important to
note other identifying fieldmarks. |
2nd round: |
6 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
|
Ryan O. |
24 Apr 2012 |
No, ID |
Color of the lighter
wing bar can be quite misleading in identification of blackbirds, and some
adult male Red-winged Blackbirds can be very pale in the part that is
supposed to be yellow. Identification of Tricolored Blackbird needs to be
supported by the shape and size of the bill, vocalizations, primary
extension, etc., not on the color of the lower wing bar alone. Bill shape
is difficult to judge accurately from the angle of this photograph, but
this bird appears to me to have a relatively thick bill base, supporting
Red-winged and excluding Tricolored. Vocalizations are the easiest way to
tell these species apart, but were not described (but the bird was likely
singing as it was an adult male in appropriate habitat at the appropriate
time of year). Primary projection cannot be judged from the photograph
and was not mentioned in the written report. Finally, although the
written report describes the epaulet as "red", the photo is more ambiguous
due to the color balance being a bit cold, and I think this could be a
reddish-orange epaulet that would be expected on a Red-winged Blackbird.
The bird reported here has a paler than normal yellow wing bar, but in my
opinion the other traits visible are consistent with a Red-winged
Blackbird. A similar bird
was photographed in Utah and discussed previously: |
2nd round: |
11 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
(See my comments on the first round.) |
Ron R. |
7 May |
No, ID |
Width of white band
and darkness of red are not consistent with tricolored blackbird.
Red-winged blackbirds can show wing band that is very light and the
photographed individual is consistent with some red-winged individuals
I've observed. Calls would have to be observed to clearly ID this
individual as a tricolored. |
2nd round: |
8 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
My comments still apply. |
Terry S.. |
9 May 2012 |
No, ID |
While white is
visible on the wing I see yellow just below the red patch. This is a
pattern sometimes visible in Red-winged Blackbirds especially in worn
plumage. The base of the bill is comparatively wider than what I would
expect to see in a tricolored Blackbird. An extraordinary record of a
tricolored blackbird would require additional photos showing wing shape,
etc. voice recording would also be helpful. |
2nd round: |
13 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
|
Jack S.. |
15 May 2012 |
No, ID |
There are structural
features that needed to be described. P9 relative to P6 (this could be
captured with photo in flight) and ratio of bill length/depth (profile
photo would allow for this measurement to be made) and rectrice shape
(according to Pyle the shape is more squarish in Tricolored and the review
bird shows a more graduated tail shape, consistent with Red-winged BB).
The color of med coverts can overlap for alternate plumage, male
Tricolored and Red-winged BB at whitish/buffy-white (Pyle 1997).
More description of how separated from RRBB is required. |
2nd round: |
6 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
|
Mark S. |
25 Apr 2012 |
No, ID |
I think this is a faded Red-winged Blackbird. The color of the epaulets is
not very diagnostic, in that the variability within RWBL can be great, and
especially at this time of year, when fading can render the lesser-coverts
nearly white. You can see on these that the bases of the feathers are
quite yellow. Tricolored can show buffy-yellowish, too, but not usually
this bright of yellow and not at this time of year. My biggest problem,
though, is with the bill shape. Although the angle of the photo may be
distorting this a bit, it appears too short, straight, and thick to be a
TRBL. In addition, the tail does not appear to be square, as in TRBL, but
slightly rounded/graduated, as in RWBL. |
2nd round: |
1 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
As per my first round comments. |
David W. |
3 May 2012 |
No, ID |
This bird is nearly identical to the May Red-winged blackbird photo shown
in Birds of North America Online. There is a thin line of transitional
yellow between the red and white in the epaulet. The bill shape and tail
are also consistent with a Red-winged blackbird. |
2nd round: |
6 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
|
2012-12 Eastern Phoebe
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Rick F. |
31 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
1 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Nice description
clearly describes this species and eliminates other flycatchers. |
Terry S.. |
16 May 2012 |
Acc |
Excellent
description |
Jack S.. |
1 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
1 May 2012 |
Acc |
Excellent description and analysis of similar species. |
David W. |
3 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
2012-13 Glossy Ibis
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Description convincing for Glossy Ibis. Photos certainly suggest Glossy,
especially the face. |
2nd round: |
3 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
The color of the face in the photos,I believe, is very difficult to judge.
In this instance I believe the written description is probably more
definitive and I will continue to vote yes. |
Rick F. |
31 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
8 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
I've studied hybrid WFxGlossy Ibis quite a bit, and I don' see any
characteristics on this bird I'd consider to be suggestive of a hybrid. |
Steve H.
2nd: |
6 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
7 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Written description
says the facial color in front of the eye was "flat gray", but photographs
show distinctly purple facial skin in all views. I believe this is a
hybrid ibis (Glossy x White-faced), and it is very comparable to those
shown in Arterburn and Grzyybowski 2003 fig. 8 and especially figs 1 and 2
in Leukering 2008. |
2nd round: |
4 Aug 2012 |
No, ID |
|
Ron R. |
7 May 2012 |
Acc |
Verifying a pure
glossy ibis is difficult due to possible hybridization with white-faced.
This bird does not have obvious hybrid characteristics, including gray
facial skin, narrow thin blue (appears whitish in photos) line outlining
facial skin with no apparent extension behind eye, and eye does not show
any redish coloration |
2nd round: |
3 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
My comments from the first round still apply. Perhaps my computer screen
is faulty, but I don't see a purplish facial skin on this bird. In
addition, I don't see any other features that might suggest a hybrid
(e.g., red eye, white behind eye, broad white facial stripes, etc.). |
Terry S.. |
16 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
9 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
I really don,t see any thing in the photos that suggests a hybrid and the
written description clearly describes a Glossy Ibis. |
Jack S.. |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
Good description and
photographs. |
2nd round: |
11 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
The description and photos closely match a Glossy Ibis. |
Mark S. |
6 May 2012 |
Acc |
Good description, and the photos show a Glossy Ibis. |
2nd round: |
4 Aug 2012 |
Acc |
I don't see convincing evidence of a hybrid here. |
David W. |
9 May 2012 |
Acc |
Photos also show that the pale outline to face patch does not wrap behind
eye, which is consistent with a Glossy ibis. |
2nd round: |
3 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
|
2012-14 Upland Sandpiper
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
I would wish for more information on this bird, including a photo. But the
description as given sounds good as given by an observer familiar with
species. |
2nd round: |
3 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
I certainly agree that more details would have been most welcome, but the
details given, plus the experience of the observer with this species, I
believe are sufficient to allow me to continue to vote yes. |
Rick F. |
2 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
This is a marginal
record. The timing and habitat are both good for Upland Sandpiper, and
the description of head and neck are okay, but the details are very
minimal overall. |
2nd round: |
8 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
|
Steve H.
2nd: |
6 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
Limited description suggestions Upand Sandpiper but I would like to see
more details before accepting. |
Ryan O. |
18 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
4 Aug 2012 |
Acc |
Description is sparse but I believe the light bill (Willets were described
as having darker bills) and thin neck as described are inconsistent with
alternatives. |
Ron R. |
27 May 2012 |
No, ID |
While this bird may
well have been an upland sandpiper, the report does not contain sufficient
descriptive material to identify this species. I encourage the observer to
resubmit the record with sufficient details to identify this bird. |
2nd round: |
3 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
My comments from the first round still apply. Without information on
color, the record does not eliminate other species including buff-breasted
sandpiper or mountain plover. |
Terry S.. |
29 May 2012 |
Acc |
While the
description of the bird was sparse I believe enough detail was given to
vote affirmative on this record. |
2nd round: |
9 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
I do agree this write up could be more but I am still inclined to accept
this record. The timing is on, the description of the head is good and the
habitat is right. Also the experience of the observer with the species is
important to consider. |
Jack S.. |
21 May 2012 |
No, ID |
The documentation is
too sparse in my opinion. This is too bad because the head, neck, & bill
field marks and habitat are 'right on' for this species. |
2nd round: |
11 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
|
Mark S. |
9 May 2012 |
No, ID |
I actually am inclined to accept this record, but have some reservations,
so I'd like to see some discussion before passing it off.
The description is very limited, and we are left to heavily rely upon the
observer's experience with the species. The structural description sounds
good, and the habitat, too, but I'm left wondering if he was seeing what
he expected to see in such a place, and maybe didn't give it the critical
examination it would warrant. He discounts the possibility that a Willet
could be in that habitat, but, as we all know, Willets are frequent in
places like that, especially in the nesting season. And a spring Willet
can be quite brownish - I don't think it's a possibility that can be so
easily brushed off. It would have been nice if he had seen the bird fly,
as the wing pattern on both species is distinctive.
Given that this is a birder from out of the area, and wasn't aware of the
rarity of such a sighting, did he immediately assume it was what would be
common in the areas he knows best, and not give it the attention it
deserved?
While I think this may be a good record, in spite of the scant write-up,
I'd like to see if others are struck by the same reservations that I am. |
2nd round: |
4 Aug 2012 |
No, ID |
I still don't feel that there's enough here to convincingly say that this
was an Upland Sandpiper. I can't vote to accept given little more than the
experience of an unknown observer. |
David W. |
23 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Although this may well have been an Upland sandpiper, I don't feel
comfortable voting to accept this record based on the few fieldmarks
provided. The viewer says there were Willets in the area, but does not say
they were close enough for direct size comparison. |
2nd round: |
3 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
I'd be willing to reconsider my vote on this record if more information
were submited. But as it stands, I cannot vote to accept. |
2012-15 Zone-tailed Hawk
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
15 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Too much of this description sounds like a vulture. No description of tail
banding. Extremely unlikely in this location. |
Rick F. |
2 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
Marginal
description, some Zone-tailed Hawk characters accurately described, but no
description of tail pattern, face pattern, cere, etc. |
Steve H. |
11 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
There was no mention of the tail pattern and color which is a key
fieldmark. |
Ryan O. |
18 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Description does not
sufficiently eliminate Turkey Vulture. |
Ron R. |
27 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Without a
description of the tail and head, the record as written is not sufficient
to eliminate turkey vulture. |
Terry S.. |
18 May 2012 |
No, ID |
There is not much to
go on with this record. Key fied marks were not mentioned and I believe
this may well be a Turkey Vulture. |
Jack S.. |
15 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Inadequate and
inconsistent description! |
Mark S. |
14 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Nothing in the description eliminates the most obvious similar species -
Turkey Vulture. The "massive" size would not be appropriate for
Zone-tailed, and the fact that the flight feathers were described as
"gray" rather than barred strongly suggests that this was, indeed, a
Turkey Vulture. |
David W. |
15 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Sounds like a Tutkey vulture to me. |
2012-16 Northern Parula
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Rick F. |
2 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
Nice record |
Steve H. |
11 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ryan O. |
18 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
27 May 2012 |
Acc |
Sufficient
description and photos to eliminate other species including tropical
parula. |
Terry S.. |
18 May 2012 |
Acc |
Convincing photos |
Jack S.. |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
Great description
and photographs! |
Mark S. |
14 May 2012 |
Acc |
Excellent description and decent photos all support the i.d. |
David W. |
15 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
2012-17 Eastern Meadowlark
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
22 May 2012 |
No, ID |
There is insufficient information to accept this as Eastern Meadowlark.
There is no mention of the song, which is by far the best way to identify
this species. The pictures are of poor quality, but what one can see would
suggest to me that Western Meadowlark is more likely. The bird appears too
pale to be an Eastern, and it is difficult to tell if the Yellow of the
throat extends into the malar area, but it almost looks like it does. |
Rick F. |
2 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
No description or
the definitive characters separating Eastern and Western Meadowlark; face
pattern, tail pattern, etc. |
Steve H. |
11 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
Amount of black on breastband varies and is not a key mark. No mention of
tail pattern and song was not heard, both of which are key to ID. |
Ryan O. |
11 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
Description does not
eliminate Western Meadowlark. |
Ron R. |
18 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
While there might be
evidence for a white malar stripe in Photo A', the lack of streaking on
the sides in Photo C" suggests strongly that this bird is a Western
meadowlark. While the observer indicated the bird was vocal, no
description was given. Vocalizations would be necessary to ID this bird as
an Eastern. |
Terry S.. |
29 May 2012 |
No, ID |
The black patch can
very on both the Eastern and Western Meadowlark. Other critical field
marks to evaluate are description of the facial markings and the flanks.
Most critical is vocalization pattern which is important in distinguishing
the two species. |
Jack S.. |
5,17 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
Insufficient detail
to distinguish from Western Meadowlark. |
Mark S. |
21 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Vocalizations were heard, but not described. Photos inconclusive, but seem
to show yellow on the throat more widely distributed onto the sides of the
throat than should be the case for Eastern. The single mark used by the
observer is of questionable usefulness as a sole field mark, especially
for someone with no experience. The photos don't show anything out of the
normal range of variation for a Western Meadowlark. |
David W. |
23 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Without an analysis of the voice, there is not enough here to eliminate
the vastly more common Western meadowlark. |
2012-18 Tennessee Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
22 May 2012 |
Acc |
Great find and definitive photos certainly help with this species. |
Rick F. |
2 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
|
Steve H. |
11 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
Good photos and description |
Ryan O. |
11 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
18 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
bold supercillium
and white undertail coverts clinch this ID. Nice photos. |
Terry S.. |
29 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Jack S.. |
29 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
21 May 2012 |
Acc |
Excellent documentation. |
David W. |
23 May 2012 |
Acc |
|
2012-19 Bronzed Cowbird
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
31 May 2012 |
Acc |
This is a very marginal photo, but, along with the description, I feel it
is adequate to confirm the Id. |
Rick F. |
2 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
Brief sighting,
however, I agree the red eye is detectable when photo is zoomed beyond
resolution |
Steve H. |
11 Jul 2012 |
Acc |
Shape and color fit this species. |
Ryan O. |
11 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
|
Ron R. |
18 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
While the photos are
not great, the red eye, heavy bill, and overall black coloration are
evident in the first photo. Vocalization consistent with this species. |
Terry S.. |
13 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
While the photos are
of marginal quality, I believe this is a bronzed Cowbird. |
Jack S.. |
19 Jun 2012 |
Acc |
I'm a little
tentative on this record but the bill shape/size (relative the head), head
shape/size, and proportionately short tail are right for this species.
Unless the apparent red color of the eye is an artifact of the
photography, this is also consistent with Bronzed Cowbird. Although I'm
not familiar with this species song, the description match songs found in
The Birds of North America Online. This species breeds south of Washington
Country, UT in AZ & CA. |
Mark S. |
23 May 2012 |
Acc |
Both the description and the photo here are marginal, that I think is
indicative of an instinct birders have today to take a picture first and
look at the bird second. I looked at the pictures first, and came to the
conclusion that it could be a Bronzed Cowbird, and noted the *hint* of a
red eye. I thought, surely, then, the observer will have noted the red eye
in the field, and we can have a clean record. But, of course, I was
disappointed because the observer didn't notice the red eye except in the
photo, where it's of marginal clarity. What to do?
Looking back the photo, the overall shape of the bird, along with the bill
shape, is appropriate for Bronzed Cowbird, and not so much for either
Brown-headed Cowbird, or other blackbirds. So given the structural
features visible in the photo, the observer's note of no brown head, and
the hint of a red eye, I'll give a reluctant vote of acceptance.
Perhaps another committee member will be less charitable and send this to
second round. I'll be interested to see the others' opinions of this. |
David W. |
30 May 2012 |
Acc |
The photos show the short tail and broad bulge in the "shoulder" area
characteristic of this species. |
2012-20 Glossy Ibis
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Bob B. |
31 May 2012 |
No, ID |
Need more details than this to confirm identification. |
Rick F. |
2 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
Description too
brief to evalaute |
Steve H. |
11 Jul 2012 |
No, ID |
There is nothing in the description to support Glossy Ibis and no photos. |
Ryan O. |
11 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
Description does not
eliminate immature White-faced Ibis or hybrids. |
Ron R. |
18 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
There is
insufficient detail to eliminate white-faced ibis or hybrid. Not all
white-faced individuals have a red face in May. Details about the eye
color, color and pattern of pale facial lines is needed to solidify glossy
ibis ID. |
Terry S.. |
13 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
Without photos more
detail is needed in describing the bird to separate from a white-faced
ibis |
Jack S.. |
6 Jun 2012 |
No, ID |
|
Mark S. |
25 May 2012 |
No, ID |
No photo, and little description. I think we need more to go on than the
simple statement, "White faced ibis has red lore while Glossy ibis has
black lore." That statement is true, but we're left to assume that the
bird in question had a black lore. And none of the other potential field
marks were noted.
I just don't think there's enough here to accept this record. |
David W. |
30 May 2012 |
No, ID |
I need more description to evaluate before accepting this record. It is
unfortunate that the observer, who watched the bird for an impressive two
hours, only noted one differentiating field mark. I am also curious how
the observer was able to determine the sex of the bird, unless he did so
by size relative to some White-faced ibises nearby [The Birds of North
America Online describes the species as "Sexually monomorphic in plumage,
but female smaller."]. |
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