2018-26
Pyrrhuloxia
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
20 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Description matches a Pyrrhuloxia. |
2nd round: |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Same comment as before... |
Kenny F. |
7 Jun 2018 |
Acc |
Description seems to match Pyrrhuloxia. |
2nd round: |
30 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Does a good job ruling out Northern Cardinal or
any other species. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Aug 2018 |
No, ID |
Hm, a tough call. This species would be hard to
mistake for another, but because of the rarity and lack of photos, I'm
voting no to push to the second round. |
2nd round: |
19 Sep 2018 |
No, ID |
|
Mike H. |
8 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
If only the world were perfect and all rare
birds were photographed. It sounds as though the looks they were able to
get were good and the description fits. I have a difficult time talking
myself into accepting such a rare sighting without photographic or audible
evidence, but will at this time to further discussion. |
2nd round: |
13 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
8 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
The description: Cardinal-like, red and grayish
overall, yellow bill,brings "What else could it be." |
2nd round: |
27 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Steve S. |
17 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
I will tentatively vote accept as the
description seems to fit. |
2nd round: |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Description fits |
Mark S. |
3 Jun 2018 |
Acc |
Good description eliminates similar species. |
2nd round: |
24 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Nothing else fits. |
Larry T. |
29 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Very rare sighting but it's such a distinct bird
if seen well hard to mistake. |
2nd round: |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
No change on my thoughts. |
Kevin W. |
13 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
I'll admit that I'm hesitant to accept this
record based on likelihood, but I can't think of anything else that fits
the description from this observer. |
2nd round: |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Description seems to fit Pyrrhuloxia. |
2018-27
Red-necked Grebe
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
20 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
23 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Photo matches Red-necked Grebe. |
Stephanie
G. |
9 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
good record |
Mike H. |
12 Jun 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
8 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Easy decision with nice photos. |
Steve S. |
17 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
3 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Excellent documentation. |
Larry T. |
29 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
13 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Photos clearly show a Red-necked Grebe. |
2018-28
Pacific-slope Flycatcher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
20 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd rnd: |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
The direct comparison info supports that this is
a Pacific-slope Flycatcher. |
Kenny F. |
23 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Spectrogram matches the single slurred note of
the male position call of a Pacific and not the two-part call of a
Cordilleran. |
2nd rnd: |
30 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Here is a direct comparison image I made of the
spectrograms of my call and the calls of different Pacific-slopes and
Cordilleran Flycatchers to make this as easy as possible. I know that
hearing a quick call note can be hard to differentiate but the
spectrograms are quite strikingly different.
Direct comparison:
https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/112943711
Note that this is a gap between the two notes on all the different
Cordilleran Flycatcher recordings. It is always two parted.
In Pacific-slopes, the call is slurred and comes across as one continuous
line with no gap. My recording shows very clearly that there is no gap.
Note 1- The images of the Pacific-slope calls on the Applied Bioacoustics
site look wider than my call. This is because it has spread out the time
on the x axis of the recording.
Spectograms of additional recordings of this species with a similar x axis
timeframe from ebird exactly match the pattern and shape of the
spectrogram of my call.
One from the Pacific Coast of Oregon:
https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/50339#_ga=2.44305892.1771546395.1535429057-120809354.1451154625
One more from the Pacific Coast of California:
https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/7600#_ga=2.44305892.1771546395.1535429057-120809354.1451154625
Note 2- In the direct comparison photo shared above, the middle
Pacific-slope call looks like it may be two parted but this is an artifact
of a poor recording. You can still see that the call is slurred overall
and matches the pattern of the others although it is fainter. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Audio waveforms match Pacific-slope |
2nd rnd: |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H.
2nd rnd: |
6 Sep 2018 |
Acc, NAS |
I wasn t able to come to a conclusion on this record prior to the first
round cut-off. After spending more time and looking through all of the
detailed data that Kenny presented, I still can t bring myself to say this
is 100% without a doubt a Pac-slope. I feel it is best to lean towards
caution with this record. |
Dennis S. |
8 Jul 2018 |
No, ID |
Once again I'm up in the air on this Western
Flycatcher complex. The submitter certainly has done a great deal of
background work on this record and one previously and is convincing in
most respects. He is commended for his efforts. However I'm still
uncommitted as to the occurrance of PSFL in our State. Even
researchers/authorities have problems with separations and to base a
record on its supposed migration timing and pattern is not sufficient for
acceptance. The songs and call notes are mostly so similar as to be
indistinguishable. So here we are again. Lets go to the second round and
see if we can convince ourselves one way or another. |
2nd rnd: |
27 Sep 2018 |
Acc, NAS |
Still not convinced to species level. |
Steve S. |
17 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd rnd: |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Expected species with sonograms to match. |
Mark S. |
3 Aug 2018 |
Acc, NAS |
I commend Kenny for all the data and the
detailed write-up. Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see the strong
correlation between the spectrogram of this bird and those of the birds in
the reference material. Especially the examples from Applied Bioacoustics
look to me like the Cordilleran position note fits the bird in this record
better than that of the Pacific-slope.
Information regarding presumed migration patterns in another state are
interesting, but certainly require some level of "ground truthing" in Utah
before we accept these conventions as applying to Utah as well.
Given the difficulties in this "species" pair, I'd prefer to err on the
side of caution. |
2nd rnd: |
24 Sep 2018 |
Acc, NAS |
I still find numerous examples of breeding
season COFL that present very similar spectograms on Xenocanto, for
example:
Montana:
https://www.xeno-canto.org/388333
Colorado:
https://www.xeno-canto.org/323422
Mexico in summer (only COFL there at that season):
https://www.xeno-canto.org/322407
Colorado:
https://www.xeno-canto.org/188042
Mexico in summer:
https://www.xeno-canto.org/14072
etc.
I think there's very little clarity, and not just a bit of circular logic,
even regarding position notes. |
Larry T. |
29 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Sounds good for a Western Fly. |
2nd rnd: |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
As before. |
Kevin W. |
13 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
I believe that this would be the expected empid
observed here (compared with the Cordilleran). |
2nd rnd: |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Seems good for a Pacific-slope Flycatcher. |
2018-29
Scissor-tailed Flycatcher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
20 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
23 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Description matches STFL best. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Description seems to rule out other species |
Mike H. |
8 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Good description. |
Dennis S. |
8 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Slight concerns with tail length description and
lack of experience with this species, but overall enough base
characteristic touching for acceptance. |
Steve S. |
17 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Description sounds good and this should be a
fairly easy ID. |
Mark S. |
3 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Good description rules out similar species; date
and location are consistent with previous occurrences of this species in
Utah. |
Larry T. |
29 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Description sounds good for this species. |
Kevin W. |
13 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Well-written description eliminates other
possibilities. |
2018-30
Least Flycatcher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
20 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
23 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Photo and audio match LEFL. |
Stephanie
G. |
14 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
8 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Well documented. |
Dennis S. |
8 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Many observers over a couple weeks span, photos,
and calls leave no doubt. I may have been the only Utah County Birder who
didn't see this bird. It's tough to be in Alaska for two months, but
someone needs to keep the economy going! Anyone like King Salmon or
Halibut? |
Steve S. |
17 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
3 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Excellent documentation. |
Larry T. |
29 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
13 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Photos look like a Least Flycatcher, with
big-looking head and short wings; the call on the ebird checklist was a
distinct "chebic" call. |
2018-31
Common Redpoll
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
20 Jul 2018 |
No, ID |
I'm puzzled by the described "unstreaked chest"
and "unable to observe chest coloration" comments. Similar species were
not effectively eliminated, and the summer range of this species is very
far north. I don't think there's enough evidence to support acceptance. |
Kenny F. |
23 Jul 2018 |
No, ID |
Description seems good but there are essentially
no records of Common Redpoll in the West in June. This would be the latest
record in Utah by 6 weeks.
I'm curious what the rest of the committee thinks of the record. |
Stephanie
G. |
13 Aug 2018 |
No, ID |
I'm voting no because of the time of year and
lack of photos. |
Mike H. |
8 Aug 2018 |
No, ID |
Time of year and observer s lack of experience
with this species leads me to vote no at this time. |
Dennis S. |
20 Jul 2018 |
No, ID |
Highly unlikely! Other than a half-dozen or so
early June records, this would be the first recorded E-bird record for
July in the lower 48. |
Steve S. |
17 Jul 2018 |
No, ID |
The observer states that this bird had a dark
bill. If he could see what he says was a pinkish forehead and a dark chin
patch he should have been able to see a yellow bill. |
Mark S. |
12 Aug 2018 |
No, ID |
The date for this record is incredible for this
species, and the observer does't adequately eliminate the MUCH more likely
Cassin's Finch. The mention of a dark bill in particular doesn't fit
Common Redpoll. |
Larry T. |
29 Aug 2018 |
No, ID |
Odd timing for a Redpoll? |
Kevin W. |
13 Aug 2018 |
No, ID |
Aside from this bird being unexpected in
mid-summer, a couple things in the observer's description don't fit Common
Redpoll: the unstreaked chest and a dark bill. |
2018-32
Brown Pelican
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
20 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Although the photo is very poor, the size and
coloring of the bird are shown. Combined with the description, I think
this is enough to accept. |
2nd round: |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
The description matches a brown pelican. |
Kenny F. |
23 Jul 2018 |
Acc |
Description matches Brown Pelican and the
picture shows a large brown bird even if it doesn't show the bill. |
2nd round: |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
The description matches a Brown Pelican exactly
and I don't think that a bad picture taken with a smart phone in
challenging photographic conditions should be held against the
description, especially if the photo doesn't show anything that would rule
out Brown Pelican. |
Stephanie
G. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos leave more to be desired and I wish that
other people had seen the bird to confirm, but it's a pretty unmistakeable
bird so I'll vote to accept. |
2nd round: |
6 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
8 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Having trouble deciphering this subpar photo.
The posture looks more like a heron than a pelican, but maybe I m missing
something? The coloring, size, and description of the bill from the
observer leave me wondering what else this could be. |
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Going off of the description more so than
picture. |
Dennis S. |
20 Jul 2018 |
No, ID |
This ones a toss-up! Photo adds nothing (could
be a Shoebill). It is someone the right time of the year for this rare
vagrant and they do retain their juvenile plumage for the first few years,
so it could be. With a recent year record in this same area maybe they are
becoming more "common" and are starting to tag along with the whites when
migrating back. Even with these points I have some concerns with this
record. How far away was the bird. Could light condition-light waves, or
staining have made it appear more brown than normal for a white? Anyway
"No ID" for now and see what others think. |
2nd round: |
7 Oct 2018 |
No, ID |
It seems everyone has basically the same
concerns and maybe there's enough for acceptance, but our standard for
acceptance needs to be maintained at somewhat of a convincing level. |
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Description seems to fit a Brown Pelican |
Mark S. |
12 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
This is a difficult record, and I'd like to see
some discussion, even though I'm not completely opposed to passing it. If
I recall, the bird was never found after this initial sighting.
The biggest issue is determining if it's truly a Brown Pelican, or just an
aberrant-plumage or dirty/oiled Am. White Pelican, that have occurred and
been misidentified as Brown Pelican in Utah in the past.
The problem I have with this record is that the pattern of light and dark
in the admittedly poor photo does not seem to match the expected pattern
for either an adult or juvenile Brown Pelican. Specifically, the broad
light patch that's either towards the rear of the bird, or more likely on
the shoulder, doesn't fit any plumage of Brown Pelican.
I'm open to discussion on this record, but my inclination is to consider
the evidence as inconclusive. |
2nd round: |
5 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Despite reservations, I'll vote to accept, based
more upon the written description than the photo. The light belly would
seem unlikely for an oiled AWPE, since the underparts are the most likely
to be soiled. |
Larry T. |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
13 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
I can understand the concerns with this record
but as others have said I think there is enough to call it a Brown
Pelican. |
Kevin W. |
13 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
I'll tentatively accept this record based on the description; the photos
show a bird that is dark above and light below, which could indicate a
juvenile Brown Pelican. |
2nd round: |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
With the description, I find this hard to be
anything but a Brown Pelican. |
2018-33
Hermit Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
30 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Good picture. Regular fall migrant in the
highlands of southwestern Utah.
Given the number of sightings on ebird, this shouldn't be a review species
but unfortunately people up to this point haven't been submitting records
for this species to the committee. |
Stephanie
G. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Looks pretty straightforward. |
Mike H. |
14 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
15 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Nice photos. |
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
28 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Excellent photos; no sign of a hybrid. |
Larry T. |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show distinctive Hermit Warbler |
2018-34
Hermit Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
30 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Good picture. Regular fall migrant in the
highlands of southwestern Utah.
Given the number of sightings on ebird, this shouldn't be a review species
but unfortunately people up to this point haven't been submitting records
for this species to the committee. |
Stephanie
G. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Looks good |
Mike H. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
I can t tell if it s an artifact or not,
but the vent appears to have a yellowish tint which would point more
towards Black-throated Green. I would expect to see a darker auricular if
this were so. I will vote to accept on what I can see for sure instead of
what might/might not be there. |
Dennis S. |
15 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
|
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
28 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Photo supports Hermit Warbler, but written
description needed to eliminate a hybrid. |
Larry T. |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show distinctive Hermit Warbler |
2018-35
Hermit Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
30 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Good picture. Regular fall migrant in the
highlands of southwestern Utah.
Given the number of sightings on ebird, this shouldn't be a review species
but unfortunately people up to this point haven't been submitting records
for this species to the committee. |
Stephanie
G. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Looks good for an immature female. |
Dennis S. |
15 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Good picture. Regular fall migrant in the
highlands of southwestern Utah.
Given the number of sightings on ebird, this shouldn't be a review species
but unfortunately people up to this point haven't been submitting records
for this species to the committee. |
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
28 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show a typical female Hermit, and no
signs of a hybrid. |
Larry T. |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show young Hermit Warbler |
2018-36
Baltimore Oriole
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
30 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Great shots of a species with surprisingly few
records in Utah. |
Stephanie
G. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Lay-up! |
Dennis S. |
31 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Picture perfect photos. |
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
28 Aug 2018 |
Acc |
Good documentation; unmistakable. |
Larry T. |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show a Baltimore Oriole |
2018-37
Prothonotary Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
1 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
I saw enough of this bird over the viewing period to ID it as a
Prothonotary Warbler. |
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Excellent description perfectly matches Prothonotary Warbler. |
2nd round: |
3 Jan 2019 |
Acc |
Description rules out all other
possible species. |
Stephanie
G. |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
6 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Description sounds good. |
2nd round: |
27 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Description still sounds good. |
Dennis S. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Good comparison of similar species. |
2nd round: |
8 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Description fits well for Prothonotary Warbler |
Mark S. |
24 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Good description of a distinctive species. |
2nd round: |
13 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
t's a hard species to mistake.. |
Larry T. |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Distinct bird with decent looks. |
2nd round: |
13 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
I'll stay with my vote to accept. |
Kevin W. |
29 Sep 2018 |
No, ID |
I think the submitters may have seen a Prothonotary Warbler, but with both
of them only getting brief, obscured views of parts of the bird, it would
seem easy to jump to conclusions on the identity. |
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
I'll lean on Kathy's confidence in the identity
of this bird. |
2018-38
Blackpoll Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Great documentation of this bird. |
Stephanie
G. |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
13 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Are all submitted photos of BLWA? |
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
24 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos and description eliminate similar
species. |
Larry T. |
4 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Nice fall record. |
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show a Blackpoll Warbler |
2018-39
Long-tailed Jaeger
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Good description of points considered to ID
bird. |
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Amazing find and photos. |
Stephanie
G. |
19 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
30 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Crazy bird! Good convincing report and photos.
Who would have guessed such a record. |
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Remarkable record, but well documented.
Structure and color both support Long-tailed Jaeger. |
Larry T. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
The photos look like a LTJ. |
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Crazy Record! The submitter did a good job of
eliminating other possibilities. |
2018-40
Tennessee Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
8 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Nice photos showing the white undertail coverts. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos of submitted bird appear to have more of
a darker greenish yellow than normally for TEWA, but descriptions and
comparison to OCWA are convincing. "Observed obscene numbers of TEWA."
Where? Not in Utah!! |
Steve S. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos are marginal, but do show some diagnostic
features. Coupled with the written description, similar species are
adequately eliminated. |
Larry T. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
For a ten-second observation this was pretty
detailed, but looks good for a Tennessee Warbler |
2018-41
Reddish Egret
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
3 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Excellent shots of this long-staying rarity. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
10 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
27 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Nice photo. |
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show a Reddish Egret. |
Larry T. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Good documentation. |
2018-42
Tennessee Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
3 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Good shots of the white undertail coverts |
Stephanie
G. |
6 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
White undertail looks clean.. |
Dennis S. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Good backup photos. |
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Good documentation. |
Larry T. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Looks good for a Tennessee Warbler to me. |
2018-43
Hutton's Vireo
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
10
Nov 2018 |
No, ID |
From the photos, the facial markings and overall
coloration of the bird seem to indicate a Bay-breasted Warbler. However,
I'm not very experienced with the fall plumage of this species, so I would
like to see what others say about this record. |
2nd round: |
1 Dec 2018 |
No, ID |
After reviewing other's comments, I'm still not convinced this is a
Hutton's Vireo. I have limited experience with this species, but my
initial impression of the photos was not what I remember from my personal
observations of the species. I recall a more spectacled appearance due to
pale lores and a more prominent eye ring. Does anyone know if there might
be fall plumage variations due to worn or molting feathers?
I'm also concerned because this species is not known to wander far from
its normal range as others have mentioned as well.
I prefer to remain cautious with another no vote, but would like to see
more discussion on the possibilities of plumage variations due to the
season and/or age of Hutton's and other more probable vireo species.12
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
No, ID |
I think this is an immature female Cassin's
Vireo. Some can appear a dull greenish like a Hutton's but Cassin's will
show a complete eye ring vs a broken one in Cassin's.
Hutton's also aren't very prone to vagrancy and tend to not leave their
home range-
https://ebird.org/map/hutvir?neg=true&env.minX=&env.minY=&env.maxX=&env.maxY=
&zh=false&gp=false&ev=Z&mr=1-12&bmo=1&emo=12&yr=all&byr=1900&eyr=2018
The closest population of Cassin's to Utah is the Grand Canyon. We may
eventually get one in Utah but it will most likely be somewhere in
Washington or Kane counties. |
2nd round: |
3 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
I believe the lighting is misrepresenting the
actual colors of the vireo. The sunrise time for that date is around 7am,
meaning the sun was low at this point of morning (the observation is from
7:40 am) and light was just coming over the mountains at that time
resulting in the vireo looking yellower than it actually is.
A color corrected version of this bird can be found here:
http://tinypic.com/r/213f6vc/9.
The yellowish wash on the flanks and the white underparts in the corrected
version look better for Cassin's Vireo whereas Hutton's should be just
drab olive underneath. |
3rd round: |
8 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
To answer Mike's question, Jon is a SL County
birder and he says the location was Garr Ranch.
I still think that the low morning light affected the coloration of the
photo and the color-corrected version shows a color pattern more
consistent with Cassin's Vireo. |
Stephanie
G. |
6 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
9 Dec 2018 |
No, ID |
The likelihood of a Hutton's Vireo in Northern Utah is quite slim, and I
can see how it could be another immature vireo sp. |
3rd round: |
15 Mar 2019 |
No, ID |
Likely immature Cassin's Vireo |
Mike H. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Blue-gray legs, unbroken eye-ring, thicker bill,
and absent of dark band on the back edge of lower wings bar. |
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
I ve tried to turn
this into something else, but I can t. I feel it s more likely that the
location of the photo isn t right.??? I m not familiar with the name of
the observer. Is he a local birder? |
3rd round: |
15 Feb 2019 |
Acc |
Question- If this were a photo from CA would there be this sort of debate
on species? I don t think so. I know this sighting is losing traction, but
everything I stated in my first comments are still true. I also feel there
are more field marks pointing to Hutton s than there are pointing away
once a range map is taken out of play. |
Dennis S. |
7 Oct 2018 |
No, ID |
I've anguished a while over this record.
In many respects it fits a HUVI - wing bars, bill shape, yellowish wing
and tail edges, head shape ect. - little doubt it's a vireo. But?
The two HUVI subspecies - (Mexican and Pacific), have very little to no
migration. There are no records in the Great Basin or Intermountain
States. The Mexican HUVI has been seen as far north as the Flagstaff area.
The Pacific is pretty much confined to west of the Sierra Crest in the
Pacific States.
Could it be a juvenile Cassin's with a weak developed eye-ring and mask?
I'm open for enlightenment! |
2nd round: |
19 Nov 2018 |
No, ID |
With no new enlightenment from First Round my concerns haven't changed.
Major concern is still its predominantly non-migratory status, with no
records from the Great Basin. |
3rd round: |
18 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
We've covered all
the bases for this record and I can see evidence for all views. However,
as a first state record, I still can't in complete conscience vote to
accept. My main problem still involves the question of a non-migratory,
never occurring outside its Pacific Slope and Southern Arizona ranges,
showing up on Antelope Island. As mentioned, if suddenly for some reason
we begin to get other records, then maybe we can reevaluate its status.
|
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
No, ID |
Photo seems to be a Hutton's Vireo, but with a
nonmigratory bird and no records that I can find for either Idaho or
Nevada which I would expect before Utah I'm not sure what to think. Could
the photos have been mixed up with another location? Curious to see what
others have to say. |
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
No, ID |
I still can't convince myself that this is a Hutton's Vireo |
3rd round: |
2 Mar 2019 |
No, ID |
I still can't rule
out young Cassin's Vireo |
Mark S. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Remarkable record. While not unexpected for
Utah, Antelope Island, and an apparent Pacific-type bird are not what I
would have anticipated for a state-first record.
While I have some minor reservations over the eye ring and lack of pale
lores, I think those are best explained by age (perhaps a juvenile bird?)
and molt, since body feathers would still be molting at this date. The
overall structure, wing markings, general coloration, and leg color all
support Hutton's Vireo.
I can't think of a better fit for this bird. |
2nd round: |
13 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
I can understand the reservations of some committee members in accepting a
Hutton's Vireo on Antelope Island in early September, it is an extremely
unlikely occurrence. But the photos clearly show a first year Hutton's
Vireo.
Perhaps a case could be made for a human-assisted transport, though I
think that is unlikely for this species, but the identification of the
bird is correct.
Bill structure eliminates all warblers. The bill size eliminates Cassin's,
and most other vireos, except perhaps Philadelphia, which it clearly isn't
for numerous reasons. The overall body structure, of short tail, shorter
primary projection and stocky body fit only Hutton's. Cassin's has a much
longer-looking, lankier build to it.
Because first fall Cassin's is perhaps the most likely alternative
candidate, let me go into detail regarding the numerous plumage/coloration
differences, in addition to the aforementioned structural characters, that
make this a Hutton's Vireo, and not a Cassin's.
The half eye-ring and (lack of) spectacles is perfect for first-fall
Hutton's, and wrong for Cassin's, that should have a much more prominent
and complete eye-ring, and a much whiter lore. Even in immature plumage,
the "spectacled" look is there. First-fall Hutton's typically doesn't show
a white lore. The facial markings of this bird match perfectly a
first-fall Hutton's.
The overall coloration also matches the dingy, yellowish, rather uniform
plumage of a young Hutton's. Cassin's should be much whiter in the throat
and under parts, grayer on the head and upper parts in general (especially
a young/female Cassin's), and generally showing more contrast in the
plumage. Even first year Cassin's has the same basic pattern as the adult.
The short, thick, very white upper wing-bar is perfect for Hutton's, and
wrong for Cassin's, that has a longer, thinner upper wing-bar.
The leg color looks very bluish gray to me, another characteristic of
first-fall Hutton's. Both Cassin's and adult Hutton's have darker gray
legs.
There is nothing about this bird that is inconsistent with a typical
first-fall Hutton's Vireo, and no other identification comes close to
matching. We can debate the remarkable nature of this occurrence, and
whether it represents a natural case of vagrancy, but the identification
is correct. |
3rd round: |
15 Mar 2019 |
Acc |
I still can't see anything about the bird in this photo that doesn't fit
Hutton's Vireo best. Sometimes range/vagrancy patterns aren't the most
reliable field marks. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
No, Nat |
I don't know what this bird is if it's not a
Hutton's.
But being so far away from any of it's naturally occurring areas for a non
migratory species I would like to hear what others think.
Maybe someone knows how far east they have been recorded in Nevada? |
2nd round: |
5 Jan 2019 |
No, Nat |
As Mark so eloquently covered the correct ID of
this bird I really don't see any reason to add to it. It looks like a
typical HY Hutton's.
This isn't a species known to be held in captivity either. But for a
species that doesn't seem to wander anywhere near N. Utah or outside it's
known range at all I don't have anywhere else to place it at this time
since I would call it a Hutton's Vireo.
Maybe we can look at the record again someday it any pattern of vagrancy
starts to appear. |
3rd round: |
7 Mar 2019 |
No, Nat |
Same thoughts. |
Kevin W. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
I never would have guessed that Utah's first
Hutton's Vireo would show up on Antelope Island, but it looks good to me.
|
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
I am confident that this bird is a Hutton's
Vireo (I can't turn it into anything else). One could question how the
bird ended up on Antelope Island, but it seems very unlikely that it was
human-transported. |
David W.
3rd: |
16 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
Man! I have gone back and forth on this one. And
then back and forth again. It structurally certainly does look like a
Hutton's vireo. In the end, though, I cannot eliminate a very drab
Cassin's. I
am troubled by the long primary extensions. Also, the eye-ring looks like
a very very drab version of a Cassin's much more than a Hutton's to me (it
is complete on top and broken in front, and the spectacle is thin in the
lore area above a distinctly darker lore stripe).
Very good points have been made on both sides of the argument, but I think
that the very fact that so many excellent birders can't agree suggests
that we ought to wait for a more definitive record for such an improbable
state-first. I'm voting NO because I think we haven't proven it guilty of
being a Hutton's beyond reasonable doubt. |
018-44
Philadelphia Vireo
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
1 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Although a photo would be nice, I'm still
willing to accept based on the detailed description and comparison to, and
elimination of, Warbling Vireo. |
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Thorough description matches Philadelphia Vireo. |
2nd round: |
3 Jan 2019 |
Acc |
There is another record in Utah of this species
on Aug 30, so the date is ok for vagrancy in Utah and a bright warbling
vireo is ruled by the description. |
Stephanie
G. |
6 Nov 2018 |
No, ID |
|
2nd round: |
9 Dec 2018 |
No, ID |
|
Mike H. |
15 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Accepting, but hoping to see more discussion. |
2nd round: |
6 Jan 2019 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
7 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Convincing enough details and comparison with
WAVI for acceptance. |
2nd round: |
10 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Still believe enough good details for
acceptance. |
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
The description seems to eliminate other vireos
and has the right field marks for Philadelphia |
Mark S. |
26 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
The description is excellent, and the observer
experienced with the species. The date, while perhaps early for Washington
County, is in line with sightings elsewhere in Utah. With so few records,
it seems to me that our data set is a bit slim to make fine judgements
regarding season of occurrence. |
2nd round: |
13 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Still believe enough good details for
acceptance. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
No, ID |
Sounds like it could have a bright Western WAVI
to me. It's on the early side for a Philly in Utah. Possible but I would
like to see pics at this date. |
2nd round: |
5 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
I still don't feel comfortable accepting this
bird as a Philly. I can't rule out a bright warbling at this time of the
year without better evidence. |
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
I'd like to see photos, but the description
seems to best match a bright Philadelphia Vireo. |
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
No additional comments. |
2018-45
Ovenbird
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Awesome band and photos. |
Stephanie
G. |
25 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Easy ID and no doubt it was here... |
Dennis S. |
27 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
If only all records were so easy. |
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
26 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show Ovenbird. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show distinctive Ovenbird. |
2018-46
Blue-footed Booby
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Stephanie
G. |
25 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
25 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
27 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Great FOS. I'm on my way down! |
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
26 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Remarkable record. From the photos, it appears
to be a juvenile female. It's a first-year bird for sure, and the pupils
look like a female, from what I can see. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
I've been wondering when this species would show
up. Nice bird for Utah. |
Kevin W. |
29 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Great find! |
2018-47
Palm Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Excellent photos. |
Stephanie
G. |
6 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mike H. |
30 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
27 Sep 2018 |
Acc |
Nice supporting photo. |
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
5 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Photo shows non-breeding Palm Warbler;
behavioral notes support the i.d. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
9 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Photos and description of behavior
(tail-pumping) indicate Palm Warbler. |
2018-48
Ruff
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
1 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
This observer is clearly experienced with this
species and has provided a very good description which supports his ID.
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Great documentation matches Ruff. |
2nd round: |
3 Jan 2019 |
Acc |
The direct comparison with a Lesser Yellowlegs
only bolsters the thorough description of a Ruff. |
3rd round: |
8 Jan 2019 |
Acc |
Ruff isn't a rare bird to this
observer who has probably seen more than all of us combined.
I haven't seen any suggestions by anyone else as to what else besides a
Ruff that this bird could be. |
Stephanie
G. |
6 Nov 2018 |
No, ID |
|
2nd round: |
9 Dec 2018 |
No, ID |
I'm not sure I'm comfortable with accepting a 10
second flyover record. |
3rd round: |
15 Mar 2019 |
No, ID |
|
Mike H. |
15 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Not an ideal observation, but description fits,
and observer has extensive experience with this species. |
2nd round: |
27 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
One s experience with a species shouldn t be
understated, and this observer has encountered more Ruffs than I will
probably see in my lifetime. Also, 10 seconds is ample amount of time for
an experienced eye to ID a bird in flight. |
3rd round: |
6 Jan 2019 |
Acc |
Still feel the same. |
Dennis S. |
8 Oct 2018 |
No, ID |
A brief overhead flying look at a shorebird is
enough to raise Id questions. However, the experience of the reporter with
this bird and the detailed report helps to remove some of the doubt. But
for now I'd like to move to the next round to see what other committee
members thoughts are. |
2nd round: |
10 Dec 2018 |
No, ID |
A flyover rare shorebird ID is still an
uncomfortable stretch |
3rd round: |
18 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
No additional thoughts - still a 10
sec. rare shorebird flyby! |
Bryan S.
3rd: |
2 Mar 2019 |
No, ID |
|
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
The description fits Ruff |
3rd round: |
2 Mar 2019 |
Acc |
I still think a 10 second look is
acceptable for a birder familiar with the species. |
Mark S. |
5 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Excellent documentation from an experienced
observer. I would encourage Mr. Cox to continue to submit such exceptional
write-ups, even without photos. |
2nd round: |
13 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Ten seconds is actually a pretty long look for a
flyover bird. I'll not second-guess the experience of the observer, who
obviously knows this species very well. The description eliminates similar
species. |
3rd round: |
15 Mar 2019 |
Acc |
I can understand the reservations
of many committee members, and on a rarer species I could appreciate a
level of caution. But I still think that an observer with this level of
experience with this very species is more likely to get the i.d. correct
than wrong. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
No, ID |
Very convincing description but I still have a
hard time accepting a flyover Ruff. |
2nd round: |
5 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
I appreciate the observer took the time to write
this record up of what may very well have been a Ruff. But even with his
experience with the bird in flight I think the bird should be let go as a
probable. |
3rd round: |
7 Mar 2019 |
No, ID |
No change on this one. |
Kevin W. |
10 Oct 2018 |
No, ID |
I'm going to bump this to the second round. The description is exceptional
for someone who also says that the bird flew overhead for 10 seconds with
a dark cloud behind, so he couldn't make out the bill or other features.
The traits described may be distinctive enough to rule out all other
shorebirds, but I'm not sure about that. |
2nd round: |
14 Dec 2018 |
No, ID |
I still question that this bird could be positively identified in a
10-second flyover with a dark cloud behind that obscured critical field
marks. |
David W.
3rd: |
27 Jan 2019 |
No, ID |
There's been a lot of discussion about the
quality of the sighting and the skills of the observer. I come down on the
side of the argument that 10 seconds of good observation is a perfectly
adequate look for most species when made by a knowledgeable birder (which
this one claims to be and as affirmed by several members of the Committee
and his excellent reputation). However, in this case, the observer himself
points to less than ideal angle & distance to the bird ("utterly crap
situation"), resulting in a paucity of field marks. And even experienced
birders make mistakes. Therefore, I do not wish to focus on experience or
length of sighting. Instead, let's look at the submitted evidence itself:
Pro:
1) Paler than the LEYE. Appeared all tan & white.
-- I'll put this under the pro column, even if it isn't exactly unique,
and varies from individual to individual in many species during fall
migration.
2) Obvious head projection well in front of wing.
-- I suppose I will put this in the vaguely pro column based on an
assumption that "well" here means "a whole bunch". I am hesitant to do
this because head extension varies so much depending on how stridently a
bird is flying, and plenty of other species certainly have heads well in
front of their wings.
3) Plump. Wing & body length similar to Lesser yellowlegs, but heavier
build.
-- OK. Plumper than yellowlegs and many sandpipers, though not all. [I
will grant here that the observer correctly identified a Lesser yellowlegs
he saw flying overhead, though much of the ID seems to hinge on this
point].
4) Wingbeat (floppy, vaguely pigeon-like wingbeats with a bit looseness to
the wingtips).
-- You know, I do have a vague memory of Ruffs (which were very common
winter visitors at sewage ponds in Africa where I began my birding) having
a bit odd wingbeats.
Con:
1) The bill itself was not seen. That's a major problem to my mind. It
also makes me wonder, far more than the duration or angle, of the adequacy
of the sighting.
Neutral:
1) Breast appeared pale tan grading into white on the lower belly vent but
not the obvious flashing white of the underwing.
--Vaguely pro, but not a very unique field mark.
2) Bright white secondary coverts. Bright white secondary underwing
coverts with a narrow but strongly contrasting black tips to the trailing
edge of the wing.
--Vaguely pro, but not a very unique field mark.
3) Most sandpipers have parallel-sided inner wings, the leading edge of
the and the trailing edge are almost perfectly parallel and there is no
expansion where the wings meet the body. On this bird the wings obviously
expanded so the base of the wings was clearly broader than the majority of
the inner wing. The inner wing also tapered slightly along its length to
the wrist joint.
-- I suppose there might be some sort of nuance here that the observer is
talking about that I am missing, but when I look at field guides I see
LOTS of sandpipers which have inner wings that are broader at the base
(due to extending tertials), including certain plovers, yellowlegs(!),
some other Tringas, godwits, curlews, many Calidris (including knots),
dowitchers, and phalaropes. Am I missing something?
4) Feet projecting beyond tail.
-- Although this is a field mark that eliminates many species, it doesn't
eliminate the very species to which the observer compares this bird, the
yellowlegs. And, one might also point to a Stilt sandpiper, though that
species is smaller than a yellowlegs.
5) Broad tail.
-- Again, not a very unique feature; and one that changes depending on
what the bird is trying to do aerodynamically.
OK, so in conclusion, I think it is very likely that the observer, being
capable and experienced, saw a flying Ruff. His gut feeling about the jizz
of the bird is fairly compelling. However, I do not personally think that
he presented enough definitive field marks to eliminate all other
possibilities. I wish I were not voting in the third round, so I could
give some of the others on the Committee a chance to convince me
otherwise.
[On a lighter note, I find the choice of "Air" for habitat very amusing,
though probably facetiously missing the point of the question. Well
played, sir!] |
2018-49
Red Phalarope
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Nice find for Lake Powell. |
Stephanie
G. |
9 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Thick bill with yellow base. |
Mike H. |
30 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Dennis S. |
7 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Nice photo. |
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
11 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show a Red Phalarope. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
10 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Thick bill, bold cap and mask, and plain gray
back are shown in the photos. |
2018-50 Red
Phalarope
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Kathy B. |
21 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kenny F. |
4 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show paler back and thicker bill. |
Stephanie
G. |
9 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
Not sure if the photos are conclusive. It seems
a bit far away to be sure. |
Mike H. |
14 Dec 2018 |
Acc |
I m assuming a couple of things on this record.
1- There views through the scope were much much better than the photos
show. 2- The color patterns are more of an artifact. Will vote to accept
at this time. |
Dennis S. |
7 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
|
Steve S. |
18 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Description fits and even poor photos seem to
show unstreaked back of Red Phalarope |
Mark S. |
11 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
Photos show clear gray back and shorter bill;
combined with the written description establishes the identification. |
Larry T. |
13 Nov 2018 |
Acc |
|
Kevin W. |
10 Oct 2018 |
Acc |
The description seems to fit Red Phalarope well,
but the photos seem to show a bird with a back as dark (or darker than)
its cap, and the quality is too poor to show other distinctive traits.
|
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