Records Committee
Utah Ornithological Society
   
Status & Comments
Year 2017 (records 1 through 25)


  
2017-01  Eastern Bluebird

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 25 Feb 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 20 Jan 2017 Acc Well-documented eastern vagrant!
Stephanie G. 7 Feb 2017 Acc Pretty straightforward sighting, widely photographed.
Dennis S. 4 Jan 2017 Acc No questions. Good documentation, photos and multiple observers over several days.
Steve S. 14 Feb 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 20 Jan 2017 Acc Good documentation.
Larry T. 22 Feb 2017 Acc  
David W. 8 Jan 2017 Acc  Lovely birds seen by very many birders over many days.
Kevin W. 15 Feb 2017 Acc Photos show Eastern Bluebirds.

 

2017-02  Iceland Gull

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 4 Mar 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

10 Apr 2017 No, ID I'm changing my vote. The darkish eye and wing tips cast too much doubt as to the ID.

3rd round:  

20 May 2017 No, ID No additional comments.
Kenny F. 20 Jan 2017 Acc Pale wingtips and head and bill structure look good for a Kumlien Iceland Gull.

2nd round:  

9 Mar 2017 Acc Still voting yes on this record. The wingtips are too pale for a Thayer's Gull.

Also these additional pictures here from the Gulls of the Americas book shows 2 Kumlien's Gulls that wingtips as dark or darker than this bird.

http://i67.tinypic.com/14cvehy.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/wjglkg.jpg.

3rd round:  

11 Apr 2017 Acc No additional comments.
Stephanie G. 7 Feb 2017 No, ID This is a difficult one. I don't think that Thayer's can be effectively ruled out, especially with that dark eye. 

2nd round:  

7 Mar 2017 No, ID It's a tough call. The primaries appear to lean towards Kumlien's, however, that dark eye makes me unable to rule out Thayer's or even Thayer's x Iceland hybrid.

3rd round:  

17 Apr 2017 No, ID Continuing to stand as a "no" on this. Thayer's cannot be reliably ruled out, especially with the dark eye.
Dennis S. 21 Jan 2017 No, ID Again this adult "whitish" gull doesn't fit the characters of a IEGU. Others are still a possibility. Size, eye color, bill and tail edge color are questionable for IEGU.

2nd round:  

15 Mar 2017 No, ID I'm sticking with my first impressions.

3rd round:  

15 Apr 2017 No, ID No additional thoughts.
Steve S. 14 Feb 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

14 Mar 2017 Acc I still think this bird looks better for Iceland than Thayer's.

3rd round:  

5 May 2017 Acc I still think this bird looks better for Iceland than Thayer's. I can't find any reference for adult Thayer's Gull that don't have black wing tips not gray as in this bird.
Mark S. 20 Jan 2017 Acc Ignoring the obvious taxonomic issues, and concern over the amount and "blackness" of the dark markings on the primaries (an open-wing shot would surely help), as well as a less-rounded head than I'd like, I'll vote to accept this record, while leaving room for the rest of you to talk me out of it.

2nd round:  

6 Mar 2017 No, ID I'm changing my vote (slipping to the other side of the fence). I'm not sure that we have enough here to eliminate Thayer's, for example. There are dark tips on the primaries, and the eye does seem dark.

3rd round:  

31 May 2017 No, ID As per my second round comments, I think there's too much room for doubt on this one.
Larry T. 22 Fe b 2017 No, ID Hard to very much in these pics. Could be a Iceland or Thayer's? Size and overall jizz look good for either. Hybrid? Not enough for me to call it a Iceland.

2nd round:  

17 Mar 2017 No, ID I'll stay with my 1st round vote on this bird.

3rd round:  

9 May 2017 No, ID As before.
David W. 27 Feb 2017 Acc I'm starting to believe that this "species" is more common in Utah than previously thought.

2nd round:  

15 Mar 2017 Acc Eye color is variable in Kumlien's gulls, and the wingtip color seem to be well within the range of this species.

3rd round:  

22 Apr 2017 Acc Despite the turning tide on this record, I will remain true to my convictions in the second round.
Kevin W. 15 Feb 2017 Acc I'll tentatively accept the identity of this gull as an Iceland. I would like better photos; the submitted photos don't show the eye well (hard to tell if its dark or light). The head and bill shape seem right to me.

2nd round:  

13 Mar 2017 Acc  

3rd round:  

18 Apr 2017 No, ID I'm changing my vote; I worry that the characteristics may not be distinct enough from a Thayer's Gull.

 

2017-03  Red-breasted Sapsucker

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 4 Mar 2017 No, ID Photos, description and elimination of similar species don't sufficiently rule out a hybrid.

2nd round:  

10 Mar 2017 No, ID No further comments.
Kenny F. 20 Jan 2017 Acc Doesn't appear to show any hybridization.

2nd round:  

9 Mar 2017 No, ID Looking at the pictures closer show that due to the poor quality, hybridization can't be ruled out.
Stephanie G. 7 Feb 2017 No, ID Photos and record cannot effectively rule out hybrid. Especially since she described that the back of the head has a little bit of black in it.

2nd round:  

7 Mar 2017 No, ID Evidence insufficient to rule out hybrid.
Dennis S. 21 Jan 2017 No, ID Again the subject bird looks like a prime candidate for a hybrid. It does show some characters of a RBSA but the report and certainly photos do not adequately rule out other possibilities and questions.

2nd round:  

15 Mar 2017 No, ID It's still a hybrid.
Steve S. 14 Feb 2017 No, ID By submiters own description this birds head has black on the back of it which it should not have in a pure Red-breasted. The photos are so bad it hard to tell anything from them.

2nd round:  

14 Mar 2017 No, ID No change from first round.
Mark S. 20 Jan 2017 No, ID Looks like it's at least partially Red-naped Sapsucker. At the very least, not enough here to rule out a hybrid.

2nd round:  

6 Mar 2017 No, ID I still think this is a hybrid.
Larry T. 22 Fe b 2017 No, ID Maybe a RB but can't see a lot in the photos to be sure.

2nd round:  

17 Mar 2017 No, ID As before certainly not enough there in the pics.
David W. 16 Jan 2017 Acc I am not sure that photos A, B, and C are of the same bird as photos E & F. Perhaps these are two different birds (or even species), though it is hard to be sure because the latter are so distorted. The bird in photos A, B, and C appears to be a hybrid with lot of striping on the face far beyond even a daggeti, looking more like a Red-naped/Yellow-bellied than a Red-breasted.

2nd round:  

6 Mar 2017 No, ID OK, I agree that even the bird in photos E & F appears to be a hybrid.
Kevin W. 15 Feb 2017 No, ID The photos don't show enough detail to be sure of identification, particularly to rule out a hybrid Red-naped x Red-breasted. It does seem a bit too red-headed to be a pure Red-naped to me. The description of a "little bit of black" on the back of the bird's head makes me think it might be a hybrid.

2nd round:  

13 Mar 2017 No, ID I still believe this bird could be a hybrid..

 

2017-04  Brown-capped Rosy-Finch

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 4 Mar 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 20 Jan 2017 Acc Dark-centered crown feathers with limited gray on the sides of the head look good for Brown-capped Rosy-finch.
Stephanie G. 7 Feb 2017 Acc Appears to be a pretty straightforward sighting of Brown-capped Rosy Finches in Utah
Dennis S. 21 Jan 2017 Acc Excellent documentation and photos leaves little doubt. A great find!!
Steve S. 14 Feb 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 20 Jan 2017 Acc Good documentation. The gray in the crown is too reduced and ill-defined for a Gray-crowned, even as an immature.
Larry T. 22 Fe b 2017 Acc  
David W. 28 Feb 2017 Acc I think many of these are immature rosy-finches sp. But some individuals appear to have the requisite head markings and pink undersides.
Kevin W. 16 Feb 2017 Acc I'm curious to see what others think about this finch, or if anyone has found good references for separating rosy-finches. I think this one looks good for Brown-capped, but there does seem (in some photos) to be quite a bit of gray around the dark crown, and in one photo (H), the colors of the center bird are very close to the bird to the right (which I think is a Gray-crowned). Also, there isn't much of a contrast between what should be dark above the eyeline to what should be brown below the eyeline; I don't know if this might be a trait of young Brown-capped Rosy-Finches.

 

2017-05  Iceland Gull

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 4 Mar 2017 No, ID I'm having a hard time with this one due to the minimal written description, brief elimination of similar species, and the poor photos.  Therefore, I'm voting a cautious "no" in this round. 

2nd round:  

20 May 2017 Acc I'll change to accept this record based on the apparent coloring of the primaries being lighter than the mantle.
Kenny F. 29 Mar 2017 Acc Very pale primaries and upperparts look good for Kumlien's Iceland Gull.

2nd round:  

5 Apr 2017 Acc Still think this is an Iceland.

Thayer's should have wingtips darker than the body, not paler like on this bird.

Glaucous-winged Gull would have grayer wingtips that at least match the body.

Rounded head and petite dark bill also fit Iceland.
Stephanie G. 7 Feb 2017 Acc I would say everything looks sufficiently light enough to put this on the Iceland side of the complex.

2nd round:  

17 Apr 2017 Acc Continuing to stand that this appears to meet the criteria to be on the scale for Kumliens.
Dennis S. 9 Feb 2017 Acc Similar to other 1st Cycle ICGU this winter.

2nd round:  

15 Apr 2017 Acc Don't we just love this gull complex!! It's still a close call, but I'm still leaning towards a "darker" immature ICGU.
Steve S. 14 Feb 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

5 May 2017 Acc Bill, head shape and coloring look "Iceland" to me.
Mark S. 23 Feb 2017 Acc Oh, joy. Another "darkish" Thayer's/Iceland Gull.

I remember the day when a bird this dark would have never passed this committee, but I guess the standards have been relaxed a bit as the number of records piles up. Circular review?

There doesn't appear to be any darkening on the wing tips, but it's hard to say from such distant photos. But I'm sure that a bird this dark would raise calls of "Thayer's" in New Jersey.

2nd round:  

9 Apr 2017 Acc Looks like the AOU may rescue us from this torture this summer.

I'm keeping my vote as "accept," since that seems to be the general sense of the committee on this record, but repeat my observation that the standard of proof demanded by the committee for this "species" has weakened considerably.
Larry T. 22 Fe b 2017 No, ID Can't see much here.

2nd round:  

9 May 2017 No, ID Can't be rescued soon enough from this complex.

Without better pics I have a hard time making much out of this except it's a blurry pale Gull. Or is it just the lighting in the bad photos?
David W. 27 Feb 2017 Acc Writeup is convincing.

2nd round:  

12 Apr 2017 Acc Until the AOU "rescues" us from this taxonomic difficulty by reorganizing the Thayers-Icelandic complex, I will vote Iceland gull. Future generations can make the appropriate adjustments along this sliding scale/hybrid storm.

I think the bird shows very pale primaries and displays the appropriate body shape and bill size for what is currently called a Kumliens.
Kevin W. 16 Feb 2017 No, ID I'm not sure the submitted photos show enough detail to distinguish this gull from a Thayer's Gull or possibly a Glaucous-winged Gull.

2nd round:  

18 Apr 2017 Acc Changing my vote; after learning more about the 'Iceland/ Thayer's' spectrum, it seems that this record seems to fit better as Iceland than Thayer's, specifically head and body shape and primary feather color. I still wish that the photos were more diagnostic.

 

2017-06  Bell's Sparrow

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 No, ID I agree the audio recording sounds like a Bell's Sparrow. However, after reviewing the photos and this article: http://www.sibleyguides.com/wp-content/uploads/On-separating-Sagebrush-and-Bells-Sparrows.pdf, I am not fully convinced that Bell's Sparrow is the correct ID.

2nd round:  

120 May 2017 No, ID I agree with David's comments. To me this is in the middle of the spectrum between Bell's and Sagebrush. I'd also like to see a more definitive specimen for a state first.
Kenny F. 9 Mar 2017 Acc Song and appearance better match canescens Bell's Sparrow rather than Sagebrush Sparrow.

2nd round:  

11 Apr 2017 Acc I still think that this looks like a Bell's Sparrow given the dark malar stripe, weak streaking on the back and flanks and the song is a match too for canescens Bell's and not a Sagebrush Sparrow.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Seems to be within range but interested in what others think.

2nd round:  

18 Jun 2017 Acc I've hesitated and gone back and forth a lot on this. The back streaking seems a little better for Sagebrush, but that strong malar stripe is just better for Bell's. Because there can be such variation in the back streaking, but the malar stripe is so obvious, I'll continue to vote this as Bell's Sparrow.
Dennis S. 9 Feb 2017 No, ID This is a problem species for us with the recent split from Sage Sparrow. Everyone should read paper by Peter Pyle in Sibley Notes and other relevant articles. There is a bunch of overlapping characters between the Mojave subspecies of Bell's Sparrow and the Sage Sparrow. The variable amount of gray darkness of the head, malar strip thickness, and streaking on the back are all enough to question the validity of this record.

2nd round:  

15 Apr 2017 Acc I'm glad we have a vote/comment opportunity system where we can review other committee members insights and opinions. After studying the excellent first round comments, my concerns have been lessened and I'm voting in favor of accepting.The degree of malar stripe prominence and back streaking slightly favors a BESP.
Steve S. 14 Feb 2017 Acc Ever since the split I've suspected Utah has this bird in the winter flocks of Sagebrush Sparrows. To me it was just a matter of time till someone bothered to stop and get decent photos of one.

2nd round:  

5 May 2017 Acc As David suggests this bird may fall in the middle somewhere but I think on the side of Bell,s Sparrow. Can we say Solitary Vireo.
Mark S. 23 Feb 2017 Acc Excellent documentation - heavy malar stripe and lack of back streaking are diagnostic.

2nd round:  

10 Apr 2017 Acc Frankly, I'm a bit surprised by the uncertainty by some regarding this record. I've spent quite a bit of time going over the photos from this record, and comparing the to other photos of know i.d. for both species, including many of my own, and the specimens in the Pyle article, and with regards to the malar stripe, I can't find anything even close to as heavy a stripe in any Sagebrush Sparrow as this bird shows. The back streaking, and color, is closer to the overlap zone, especially given the worn plumage at the time of the sighting, but still more closely fits A. b. canescens than A. nevadensis.

The song also more closely resembles canescens.

Given three definitive features to differentiate these two, one points strongly to canescens, and the other two at worst weakly to canescens, and none even weakly to nevadensis. Add to that the fact that the occurrence pattern for these species would make canescens the more likely to occur at this location and date, and I see little support for not accepting this record.

The fact that this would technically be a "state first" record, and thus require some larger level of proof, ignores that this status is only because of the recent taxonomic changes, and that this form has no doubt long occurred in Utah.
Larry T. 31 Mar 2017 Acc This one could go either was for me. But for now I will accept it. I have seen similar looking sage sparrow on the slope but have a hard time calling them with 100% certainty.

Most of the pics look good but a couple could go either way. But this is a difficult I'd that can be misleading in photos.

2nd round:  

9 May 2017 Acc I will stay with accepting this bird. I'm certainly more comfortable with it after reading the other comments.
David W. 28 Feb 2017 No, ID In my visual evaluation, I relied mostly on Pyle, 2013: (http://www.sibleyguides.com/wp-content/uploads/On-separating-Sagebrush-and-Bells-Sparrows.pdf.

To my eye, this bird has a very gray head and distinct mantle streaking, consistent with a Sagebrush sparrow. It has a strong malar stripe like a Bell's sparrow.

When I compare the song to recordings on Xeno-Canto, I find myself leaning toward A. b. canescens, but some of the nevadensis sound too similar to dismiss.

I will vote NO for now, hoping someone votes to ACCEPT in order to bounce this into the second round.

2nd round:  

9 Apr 2017 No, ID I still think this record doesn't adequately exclude the possibility of a Sagebrush sparrow. It seems very intermediate for the reason's I noted in the first round. Although this MAY be a Bell's sparrow, I'd like to see something more definitive for a state first.
Kevin W. 13 Mar 2017 Acc On the spectrum between Bell's Sparrow (particularly the canescens subspecies) and Sagebrush Sparrow, this bird seems to lean more toward Bells. The minimal back-streaks and dark malar streaks seem good. I'm not sure how definitive other characteristics that the submitter mentions are (voice, white tail-edges). I've thought that certainly some portion of the Sage-type sparrows wintering here must be Bell's based on numbers reported in southern Nevada.

2nd round:  

17 Jun 2017 Acc I still believe this bird shows good characteristics for Bell's Sparrow, and the species is a likely bird to show itself sooner or later.

 

2017-07  Boreal Owl

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 No, ID There's not enough recorded call for me to accept this record.

2nd round:  

20 May 2017 No, ID Although a Boreal Owl "could" have made this call, I'll stick with my initial vote and comment.

3rd round:  

15 Jul 2017 No, ID No further comments.
Kenny F. 9 Mar 2017 Acc Call seems to match the 2nd part of the call described. Another example can be found here: http://www.xeno-canto.org/169272.

2nd round:  

5 Apr 2017 Acc Given the location and the elevation, Boreal Owl fits well here.

Also the Xeno-canto link I shared of a Boreal has a very similar call to this record.

Can anyone else who doesn't think this is a Boreal Owl find a recording of another owl species making the call similar to the one in this recording? I don't understand how others can reject this sighting without offering up concrete evidence that this call can be given by another owl species.

3rd round:  

19 Jul 2017 Acc Are any other dissenters going to show evidence of another owl species making a similar call?
Stephanie G. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Recording is not great, but habitat, description, and behavior seems fine for Boreal Owl.

2nd round:  

17 Apr 2017 Acc While the recording is poor, the habitat matches Boreal and the description fits well. Boreal is not terribly unlikely in the Uintas and is probably under-reported.

3rd round:  

26 Jul 2017 Acc I think other species can be eliminated fairly well.
Dennis S. 11 Feb 2017 No, ID I'm sorry there needs to be more than a distant "ooo-ahh", chirp, tweet, pop, or whatever for acceptance of a record. Especially with owls "whoo" are know for their repertoire of odd noises.

2nd round:  

15 Apr 2017 No, ID No change in thoughts from first round.

3rd round:  

12 Jul 2017 No, ID Still not sure it wasn't an aberration of some other species call.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 No, ID With a very poor tape with one indistinct sound I don't know how we can determine Boreal Owl.

2nd round:  

5 May 2017 No, ID No change from first round.

3rd round:  

7 Aug 2017 No, ID I still can't make out anything distinctive enough to call this a Boreal Owl.
Mark S. 23 Feb 2017 No, ID I can't really hear anything distinctive on that recording.

I'm hesitant to accept a heard-only record from the description alone, though not totally opposed, if others have no problem with it. They probably heard a Boreal Owl, but I'm not sure that the evidence meets the standards for acceptance.

2nd round:  

10 Apr 2017 Acc I listened to the recording again, when it was quieter here, and could hear more, so I tried it with headphones, and was able to hear it well enough to offer comparison to other calls. Although there are some calls of N. Saw-whet or even Long-eared Owl that could suggest this call, a partial capture of the "ooo-ahh" call of the Boreal Owl, grabbing the second note, bears a very close resemblance to this call, and represents what I think is the "best fit."

The narrative of the written description makes this identification even more likely.

Therefore, I'm changing my vote to "accept.".

3rd round:  

26 Jul 2017 Acc I still don't see a viable alternative, especially considering the totality of the record, including location, season and the observer's description.
Larry T. 31 Mar 2017 Acc I will accept it on the observers description. I can't make out much from the recording.

2nd round:  

9 May 2017 Acc Given the description and What can be made out of the recording I will stay with my vote.

3rd round:  

31 Jul 2017 Acc I still don't have a problem with this one.
David W. 19 Mar 2017 Acc Agh. I hate to vote in the affirmative on such a weak recording, but, after a long time listening to all reasonable alternatives on Xeno-Canto, I can't think of a better match. Maybe someone can talk me out of it in the second round. Mammal anyone?

2nd round:  

12 Apr 2017 Acc Unless someone can show me an example of a call matching this record, I will again vote in the affirmative. I cannot match the tone/quality of this call to any other species. Please convince me otherwise if you know of any recordings that I have not heard, and I will change my vote.

3rd round:  

24 Jun 2017 Acc No further thoughts.
Kevin W. 13 Mar 2017 No, ID I don't think the sound recorded can definitively be identified as a Boreal Owl, and there is no other evidence.

2nd round:  

17 Jun 2017 No, ID I'm sticking with my original vote. This could have been a Boreal Owl, but I don't think it's definitive.

3rd round:  

23 Aug 2017 No, ID No additional comments

 

2017-08  White-rumped Sandpiper

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

20 May 2017 Acc I see a White-rumped Sandpiper in the photo.
Kenny F. 9 Mar 2017 Acc Photo clearly shows this species's namesake white rump.

2nd round:  

5 Apr 2017 Acc If you look closely at the photograph, you can see that the white isn't showing because the bird is tipped to the side- the white goes all the way over the back.

All the other shorebird species that have white rumps can be ruled out based on bill shape: Black-bellied Plover, Piping Plover, Northern Lapwing, American Oystercatcher, Yellowlegs, Willet, Hudsonian Godwit, Turnstones, Surfbird, Curlew Sandpiper, Stilt Sandpiper.
Stephanie G. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Field marks look good

2nd round:  

17 Apr 2017 Acc White rump clearly shows
Dennis S. 13 Feb 2017 No, ID Not convinced. Photo is inconclusive- could be a different species, simply tipped to side when flying and pale base of bill is apparently only found in breeding birds.

2nd round:  

15 Apr 2017 Acc After reading every ones 1st round comments and further studying the record I swayed towards acceptance.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

5 May 2017 Acc Still looks like White-rumped to me.
Mark S. 6 Mar 2017 Acc It has a white rump.

2nd round:  

10 Apr 2017 Acc I still see a white rump.
Larry T. 30 Mar 2017 Acc Good photos.

2nd round:  

9 May 2017 Acc  
David W. 16 Feb 2017 No, ID I'd like to send this to the second round to see if anyone else is troubled by the extent of white on the back.

2nd round:  

12 Apr 2017 Acc Unlike Dennis, I was actually thinking there was too much white on the rump/back/tail, but I now see that the impression is only caused by the angle of the photo, maximizing the curved white rump patch to make it appear larger than it is. My concern is resolved.
Kevin W. 13 Mar 2017 Acc The sandpiper shown in the photo looks good for a White-rumped.

2nd round:  

17 Jun 2017 Acc Still agree that this bird appears to be a White-rumped Sandpiper.

 

2017-09  Blue-headed Vireo

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 No, ID Cassin's Vireo is not sufficiently ruled out.

2nd round:  

20 May 2017 Acc Based on the side-by-side comparison, I'll change my vote to accept.
Kenny F. 9 Mar 2017 Acc Photos show strong contrast between blue facial pattern and white throat and brighter flanks than a Cassin's Vireo would have.

2nd round:  

8 Apr 2017 Acc I went ahead and put together the 2 most similar pictures of this record and the other rejected Blue-headed Vireo record (2016-36) to compare the 2 birds.

http://i68.tinypic.com/zkhoa8.jpg

They do look like different birds. The left is the original record which looks like a Cassin's Vireo. The bird on the right is the bird from this record.

Notice the weak contrast on the facial features on the left bird with some intermediate feathers with the 2 colors come together. The bird on the right shows strong contrast. Also note the darker blue head and brighter yellow flanks, which strongly contrasts with the white belly on the bird on the right.
Stephanie G. 26 Feb 2017 Acc Clean demarcation between gray on head and throat. Bright yellow coloration.

2nd round:  

17 Apr 2017 Acc Contrasting head, clean demarcation on throat, bright yellow on sides all point to the species. 
Dennis S. 13 Feb 2017 No, ID Not convinced. Too much overlap with possible Cassin's. Photo not conclusive.

2nd round:  

15 Apr 2017 Acc The comparison photos (thanks Kenny) of the two birds seen in the same area and time frame helped to clarify and make the second record look much better as a BHVI.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 No, ID I think this is probably the same bird as in record number 2016-36, which was seen a few days later and I have the same concerns as in that record.

2nd round:  

5 May 2017 Acc OK side by side they do look like different birds and I'll vote to accept this one.
Mark S. 30 Mar 2017 Acc Photo shows a Blue-headed Vireo. The dark lores are fine for Blue-headed; that purported character for Cassin's Vireo is unreliable.

2nd round:  

10 Apr 2017 Acc While the boundary between Cassin's and Blue-headed can be blurry with some individuals, this is not one of those. The brightness of the color on this individual, as well as the definition of the head-throat boundary, falls outside of the range of variation for Cassin's Vireo, and squarely within the realm of Blue-headed.
Larry T. 30 Mar 2017 Acc Nice photos of a Blue-headed Vireo.

2nd round:  

9 May 2017 Acc  
David W. 27 Feb 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

11 Apr 2017 Acc I'd like to stick with my first round (lack of) comments, but I don't wish to run afoul of the bylaws requiring 2nd round comments. I basically agree with Mark on this one, though I do not think the individual falls as "squarely" as one might desire (a bit of wobble on the landing, but remained standing).
Kevin W. 13 Mar 2017 Acc The bold contrast of this vireo between the head and throat make me lean toward this being a Blue-headed. The photos don't show the contrast between the head and back well, but it seems to be noticeable.

2nd round:  

17 Jun 2017 Acc Continue with the Blue-headed Vireo identification.

 

2017-10  Red Phalarope

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 9 Mar 2017 Acc Thicker bills (with the one on the right showing a pale base), overall pale gray back and foreparts that ride higher in the water look good for Red Phalarope.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Bills seem to have blunt ends although it's a difficult call.
Dennis S. 13 Feb 2017 Acc Record Verification Form lists this record as Blue-headed Vireo [mistake has been corrected]. If so then no ID.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc By bill shape alone these seem to be Red Phalaropes.
Mark S. 7 Apr 2017 Acc  
Larry T. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
David W. 16 Feb 2017 Acc Bill shape eliminates other phalaropes.
Kevin W. 13 Mar 2017 Acc The thick, blunt-tipped bill is shown in the photos, and other field marks seem to match Red Phalarope.

 

2017-11  Red-throated Loon

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 9 Mar 2017 Acc Overall pale coloration (especailly of the underparts) along with the upturned bill look good for Red-throated Loon.
Stephanie G. 26 Feb 2017 Acc I was there in person for this particular record. :) Obvious Red-throated Loon, light coloration, small loon, upturned bill.
Dennis S. 11 Feb 2017 Acc Report is adequate and substantiated by many independent observers over time. But photos!! - are you kidding - you can hardly tell it's a bird let alone a RTLO.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 31 Mar 2017 Acc The photos are inconclusive, but the description is good enough for me.
Larry T. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
David W. 16 Feb 2017 Acc Seen by many over a long period.
Kevin W. 13 Mar 2017 Acc I don't think the photos are enough to identify this bird, but the description fits Red-throated Loon well.

 

2017-12  Yellow-bellied Sapsucker

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 27 Mar 2017 Acc The juvenile plumage this late in the fall looks good for YBSA.
Stephanie G. 26 Feb 2017 Acc Specimen retaining juvenile plumage well in to October. Heavy barring on the back. Seems to be pretty straightforward.
Dennis S. 26 Feb 2017 Acc Based solely on the late Fall observation date it (they) is most likely a YBSA.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 7 Apr 2017 Acc Even a late-molting Red-naped Sapsucker would show much more adult-type plumage this late in the season.
Larry T. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
David W. 16 Feb 2017 Acc Very late juvenile plumage for its look-alike taxon.
Kevin W. 2 Apr 2017 Acc I wish the photos would have shown the bird's back better, but the description seems appropriate for a Yellow-bellied Sapsucker.

 

2017-13  Great Gray Owl

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Obviously a Great Gray Owl. Nice pics.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Obvious ID
Dennis S. 9 Feb 2017 Acc It's been a long time coming!
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 7 Apr 2017 Acc No doubt on this one.
Larry T. 31 Mar 2017 Acc Maybe the only one who didn't see this bird.
David W. 10 Feb 2017 Acc Despite the almost comical absence of written description in all three submissions, the photos and excited shrieks from the birding community tell the story. I am amused that the written description in the first write-up describe this Great GRAY owl as being brown.
Kevin W. 2 Apr 2017 Acc Photos show a Great Gray Owl.

 

2017-14  Great Gray Owl

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 Mar 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Obviously a Great Gray Owl. Nice pics.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Obvious ID
Dennis S. 9 Feb 2017 Acc  It sure got everyone's attention. Good photo and write up.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Nice record.
Larry T. 31 Mar 2017 Acc I would say you'd have to think this is probably a different bird. But who knows for sure.
David W. 10 Feb 2017 Acc Again, described as brown (though, admittedly, one can see brown highlights in these photos). Amazing photos! Have you all seen that video by the person who approached the owl and, allegedly, petted it? Someone sent it to me, and maybe it should be made part of the record. Astounding in so many ways...
Kevin W. 2 Apr 2017 Acc Photos show a Great Gray Owl.

 

2017-15  Alder Flycatcher

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 8 Apr 2017 No, ID I've gone back and forth on this ID, but have finally decided on a "no," at least for this round. Although the back coloration does appear to be bright, none of the references I have consulted declare this as a diagnostic characteristic of Alder Flycatcher. The eye-ring is noticeable, but this characteristic is variable in "Traill's Flycatchers" with some Willow Flycatchers showing stronger eye-rings than others.

2nd round:  

20 May 2017 No, ID Without something definitive, like a sound recording, I can't vote to accept.
Kenny F. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Tony Leukering seems correct that this is an Alder Flycatcher, which would make sense given that some of the characteristics did look like a YBFL but some of the field marks did not.

2nd round:  

7 Jun 2017 No, ID Without a vocal recording of this species, I don't think the committee will accept a 1st state record of this species.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

18 Jun 2017 No, ID While Matt has submitted a great case, I think that there have been some valid comments presented that express enough doubt on the ID. Without vocalizations I suppose we shouldn't vote to accept a record like this on an empid.
Dennis S. 1 Mar 2017 No, ID So here we are once again with an Empidonax Flycatcher and that's the only fact we are sure of. And once again I've spent an inordinate amount of time studying this issue. At first glance I can see why there were identification questions in the observers mind. Like the report points out there are several characters that point towards an ALFL. However there are so many variables to the other closely resembled species that clouds of doubt begin to form. First its a common repeated statement that willow and alder flycatchers "even in hand" can not be separated for certain. The only western states fall record from Ebird is from the Farallon Islands off the California coast. And this bird was caught in a mist net and needed hand measurements before it was determined to be an Alder. The presence/absence/prominence of the eye-ring runs both directions in the Willow/Alder subspecies and can't always point to one or the other. Same with coloration of back, whiteness of throat, and amount of yellow underparts. What of the "vested" appearance of the breast area? This can be used to help separate some species. All authorities do agree that the voice is the only sure way to distinguish one from another. Parts of the bird reminds you of not only a Alder and Willow but also Yellow-bellied and even Acadian. Like the report mentioned, the "identification would be a bit of a stretch and forced". That's how I made my decision.

2nd round:  

15 Apr 2017 No, ID No additional thoughts from first round.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 No, ID As per Kaufman, Field Guide to Advanced Birding "silent birds are almost impossible to name with confidence. Even in the hand, silent birds often have to be identified as Trail's Flycatcher."

2nd round:  

5 May 2017 No, ID I don't think this bird can be accepted without a sound recording.
Mark S. 8 Apr 2017 No, ID Note to self: Do not take on records like this before morning coffee.

I applaud Matt's efforts and tenacity with this record, and this may, indeed, be an Alder Flycatcher. I think *most* other empids can be eliminated, including western Willow Flycatcher. But, in spite of the certainty expressed by Tony Leukering, I don't think that we can eliminate the possibility of it being an eastern Willow Flycatcher, that shows more of an eye-ring, and greener back and head, than western WIFL.

I'm also concerned by the buff color of the wingbars in photo B. Could this be a juvenile-plumage individual? That would certainly complicate matters even further.

I'm hesitant to accept a record of this magnitude without even a description of a vocalization. I'm not sure that this individual can be positively identified from these photos alone.

2nd round:  

31 May 2017 No, ID As per my first-round comments.
Larry T. 12 Apr 2017 No, ID First off trying to ID empids from photos is certainly a crap shoot. You can get comments from 1/2 a dozen different experts and be lucky to get anything better than a 4 / 2 out come on the ID.

Sure would make everyone's job easy if birds would speak up in migration.

The pics are quite good but do they make anything diffidently, probably not in my mind.

The eye ring and bill shape and color can be seen pretty well and do eliminate a few species leaving YB,Least,Alder as being the best fit. A dull Western and a eastern Willow with a bright eye ring is also possible. To me the bill looks very good for a Least. Also it could fit YB,Alder/Willow and Western from the angle were seeing. The dark/black wings with high contrasting wing bars and tertial edges best fit Least and YB to me.

But again were looking at photos.

The overall shape jizz of the bird depends on which pic your looking at. I think the crest can be thrown out, who knows what was being caught in a spit second pic. Photo B makes the tail look long for a Least otherwise that's probably what I'd want to call it.

Again maybe mis-leading photos?

YB should have more of a yellowish eyering and throat but I'm not sure how well were seeing that in these pics.

Alder/Willow is a good fit for this bird also. The bill looks to be a bit more rounded for either but again the pics? The jizz certainly fits either. The overall color could be good or mis-leading?

I would have liked to have been able to study this bird in the field but even then to be certain of the ID I'm afraid I would have wanted to hear the bird.

I can't wait to read everyone's comments on this one.

I'm open to changing my vote but I will need more than what else could it be.

2nd round:  

9 May 2017 No, ID Not much to add but I agree with everyone that it's going to be hard to accept a bird of this difficulty without it being heard.
David W. 7 Mar 2017 No, ID First, let me applaud Mr. Pendleton on the boldness of his submission. He is a braver man than me. I personally am left uncertain and will vote NO for this round in hopes that someone can educate me on this beautifully-photographed bird.

When this record was submitted as a Yellow-bellied flycatcher, it received several votes in the affirmative, with many of the remainder (including mine) deferring to Willow flycatcher. No one suggested an Alder flycatcher. Since this would be a state first, I will vote NO to be conservative.

I am more than happy to be converted on this vote if someone can show me a definitive way to identify an Alder flycatcher without resorting to voice. Yellow-bellied? One of the many races of Willow?

I'll end with something I read on one web site which quoted a Peter Pyle (1997) warning: "Alder Flycatchers should be separated from most Willow Flycatchers with great caution, and only with extreme individuals.

2nd round:  

14 Apr 2017 No, ID I have enjoyed reading all the NAYs on this vote, and I agree with them. I'm going to stick to my first-round vote in the absence of a sound recording.
Kevin W. 2 Apr 2017 No, ID I'm not sure if there is enough info to determine if this is an Alder Flycatcher. The characteristics that were described (as well as the photos, in my opinion), seem to fall within range of variation of Willow Flycatcher.

2nd round:  

17 Jun 2017 No, ID I still don't think that there's enough to definitively identify this bird as an Alder Flycatcher.

 

2017-16  Least Flycatcher

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Looks and sounds like a Least Flycatcher.
Kenny F. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Audio a match for LEFL..
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Looks fairly straightforward
Dennis S. 26 Feb 2017 Acc Good photos and physical description of bird but would have liked a description of "vocals". What did the characteristic calls it made sound like?
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Looks and sounds like Least Flycatcher.
Larry T. 4 Apr 2017 Acc  
David W. 16 Feb 2017 Acc  
Kevin W. 2 Apr 2017 Acc Both photos and recording, as well as the description, fit Least Flycatcher pretty well.

 

2017-17  Red-throated Loon

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 10 Apr 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Looks good for a Red-throated Loon.
Stephanie G. 26 Feb 2017 Acc Pretty straightforward with clear pictures. Upturned bill, light coloration. Neck that hits the water on a straight angle.
Dennis S. 11 Feb 2017 Acc Good report and supportive photos.
Steve S. 12 Mar 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 8 Apr 2017 Acc The photos show a Red-throated Loon.
Larry T. 4 Apr 2017 Acc  
David W. 16 Feb 2017 Acc Convincing write-up and photos.
Kevin W. 2 Apr 2017 Acc Photos and description fit Red-throated Loon.

 

2017-18  Common Crane

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 14 May 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 27 Mar 2017 Acc Photos are good for a Common Crane. Provenance is always a question for a species like this but given that other states's record committees have accepted this species to their official checklists and that it is accepted that Common Cranes and Lesser Sandhill Cranes overlap breeding areas in Siberia, it is likely that it is a regular vagrant to the US.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Exciting!
Dennis S. 15 Mar 2017 Acc No question it's a COCR. I wonder if it's the same bird that was at Overton, Nevada a few years back? Any reports of one in Bosque del Apache in New Mexico this past winter? How bout the Uinta Basin since then? Anyone checked? Wish it would have stuck around a day or two!
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc Nice find
Mark S. 8 Apr 2017 Acc The i.d. is not in doubt, so the only question is if it's of natural origin. This sighting fits with the pattern of numerous others in western North America. It could even be considered overdue for Utah.
Larry T. 9 May 2017 Acc I'll accept this record but I suspect this will go to a second round. Natural occurrence is certainly a question for this bird. But they do show up in N. America. I don't see anything wrong with the bird and it's not near the city zoo. Mixed in with migrating SH Cranes looks good to me.
David W. 14 Mar 2017 Acc When this came out over the internet/eBird as a hybrid, I spent a lot of time with my European field guides trying to figure out why someone would come to that conclusion. But I did not see any indication of hybridization. I do not see any now. Looks like a spot-on match for a Common crane, so, unless someone knows of evidence that this is an escapee, I will vote to accept. Very nice record.
Kevin W. 2 Apr 2017 Acc Photos show a Common Crane; similar to Nevada's first record in 2013.

  

2017-19  Black-throated Green Warbler

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 31 May 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 5 Apr 2017 Acc Looks great for a Black-throated Green Warbler. I wish these state firsts would stick around a little longer and not be 1 day wonders!
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc  
Dennis S. 14 Apr 2017 Acc Report touched all close possibilities.The videos were short, but convincing.
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc I wonder how many of these get passed off as Townsend's.
Mark S. 9 Apr 2017 Acc Remarkable record.
Larry T. 9 May 2017 Acc Odd time of year for a BT Green to be in Logan. I'm glad they got the video or I would have had a hard time with this one.

I'm surprised we don't have more records of this species coming through in migration.
David W. 1 Apr 2017 Acc Clearly this species.
Kevin W. 17 Apr 2017 Acc Videos and description fit a Black-throated Green Warbler well.

 

2017-20  Eastern Phoebe

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 3 Jun 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 5 Apr 2017 Acc Looks good for an Eastern Phoebe.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc  
Dennis S. 16 Apr 2017 Acc Looks good for an EAPH.
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 9 Apr 2017 Acc Photos show Eastern Phoebe.
Larry T. 9 May 2017 Acc  
David W. 4 Apr 2017 Acc Good photos and write-up.
Kevin W. 17 Apr 2017 Acc Photos and description match Eastern Phoebe.

 

2017-21  Least Bittern

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 3 Jun 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 5 Apr 2017 Acc Nice photos of a Least Bittern.
Stephanie G. 8 Apr 2017 Acc  
Dennis S. 15 Apr 2017 Acc 2 years ago!! Better late than never! No question about ID.
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 9 Apr 2017 Acc Should this still be on the review list, especially from this location?
Larry T. 9 May 2017 Acc  
David W. 4 Apr 2017 Acc Photo clearly shows this species.
Kevin W. 17 Apr 2017 Acc Photos show a Least Bittern

 

2017-22  Little Gull

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 3 Jun 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 8 Apr 2017 Acc Sorry for not sending this one is before!
Stephanie G. 12 Apr 2017 Acc Field marks and photos solid
Dennis S. 16 Apr 2017 Acc Nice flight photos. No apparent problems.
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 9 Apr 2017 Acc Good documentation.
Larry T. 9 May 2017 Acc  
David W. 11 Apr 2017 Acc I took a bit of time to convince myself this couldn't be a kittiwake, but I agree with the ID.
Kevin W. 17 Apr 2017 Acc The bold M pattern and dark underwing show this to be a Little Gull.

 

2017-23  Ruff

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 3 Jun 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

17 Jun 2017 Acc The photos show the yellow legs, short dark thick-ish bill, large tertials, and stocky-ish body shape of a Ruff.
Kenny F. 19 May 2017 Acc This bird seems to best match a Ruff with the yellow legs and dark bill as well the large tertials.

2nd round:  

19 Jul 2017 Acc Still looks like a Ruff to me. Should a vote of 8-1 in the first round just get accepted and not sent to the second round?
Stephanie G. 17 Apr 2017 No, ID I'm not seeing the buffy-ness that the observer describes, nor does the patterning on the coverts seem to match for ruff. I don't see what rules out Lesser Yellowlegs here. Bill also doesn't appear to droop in my perception.

2nd round:  

24 Aug 2017 No, ID I had planned a larger analysis of this, but it appears that I am in the minority here. I still see this as a Lesser Yellowlegs and don't see any evidence of this being a Ruff. It isn't buffy enough. No where can I find a picture of a Ruff that looks like this with such contrast. It's the same size as the nearby Yellowlegs and the plumage pattern is the same. Looking at the nearby Yellowlegs the bill size and width looks the same. The body looks sleek, not chunky. The scaps look solid, not patterned. The leg color looks the same as the yellowlegs. Just not seeing it.
Dennis S. 16 Apr 2017 Acc Unless I'm missing something I think it's what it is.

2nd round:  

12 Jul 2017 Acc Still think Ruff!
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

7 Aug 2017 Acc Still looks like a Ruff to me.
Mark S. 31 May 2017 Acc Looks like a Ruff (Reeve).

2nd round:  

26 Jul 2017 Acc Still looks like a Ruff.

In answer to Kenny's question, no, I think unanimous first-round votes is a good standard.
Larry T. 16 Jun 2017 Acc  

2nd round:  

31 Jul 2017 Acc I agree with the comments.
David W. 22 Apr 2017 Acc I was a bit hesitant when looking at the photos, but the writeup swayed me.

2nd round:  

24 Jun 2017 Acc I have spent considerable time looking through my various field guides from Europe and elsewhere in response to Stephanie's comments, but I still believe this to be a Ruff. As so many tomes point out, this is a highly variable species (not just sexually dimorphic), and the elusive breast buffiness does not appear to be a critical field mark (though some is certainly visible in the photos). I cannot see this as a Yellowlegs for various reasons (thickness of bill, thickness and color of legs, plumage pattern), nor anything other species. But it does look like a Ruff to me. Note the way the mantle feathers are puffed up, as so often happens with Ruffs.
Kevin W. 17 Apr 2017 Acc I wish the photos were better, but the bill shape, leg color, and back pattern lead me to conclude that it is a Ruff.

2nd round:  

3 Jun 2017 Acc I still believe that this is a Ruff.

 

2017-24  Magnificent Frigatebird

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 3 Jun 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 19 May 2017 Acc Amazing shots rules out any other frigatebird species.
Stephanie G. 17 Apr 2017 Acc Obvious ID. Was so fun to see!
Dennis S. 17 Apr 2017 Acc No problems with this one! Many saw it.
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 31 May 2017 Acc Could have taken those shots here.
Larry T. 16 Jun 2017 Acc Nice bird for Utah.
David W. 20 Apr 2017 Acc As much as I would like to vote to reject out of sour grapes, the spectacular photos and detailed write-up convince me to take the high road.
Kevin W. 18 Apr 2017 Acc Photos clearly show Magnificent Frigatebird.

 

2017-25  Long-tailed Jaeger

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Kathy B. 3 Jun 2017 Acc  
Kenny F. 19 May 2017 Acc Clearly a Long-tailed Jaeger.
Stephanie G. 7 May 2017 Acc  
Dennis S. 16 May 2017 Acc No questions apparent.
Steve S. 5 May 2017 Acc  
Mark S. 2 Jun 2017 Acc Hey, even I saw and photographed that one!
Larry T. 16 Jun 2017 Acc Nice Photos.
David W. 22 Apr 2017 Acc Again, remarkable photos by Rick.  I also appreciated the history of the life & times of this bird in Utah.
Kevin W. 18 Apr 2017 Acc Photos show Long-tailed Jaeger.