Records Committee
Utah Ornithological Society
   
Status & Comments
Year 2011 (records 1 through 15)


   
2011-01  Iceland Gull

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 1 Feb 2011 Acc  

2nd round  

19 Apr 2011 Acc I still feel this is in all probability an Iceland Gull.  Multiple reliable birders doesn't necessarily guarantee the correct ID, but considering everything, I really feel this is the correct call.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc  Adequate description of an 'Iceland' Gull, however, I beleive this is a Kumlien's Gull (& the observer mixed up his description of a Kumlien's vs. nominate glaucoides in the 'similiar' sp. section.

2nd round  

28 Apr 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 Acc  

2nd round  

28 Apr 2011 No, ID Photos are not clear enough to adequately eliminate Thayer's Gull. Description is better for Iceland but, combined with photos, is not conclusive.
Colby N.      
Ron R. 4 Feb 2011 Acc It's difficult to evaluate an Iceland gull without effective photos. However, I feel the description captured the important features and the bird was carefully observed by several experienced birders.

2nd round  

20 May 2011 No, ID I had reservations about accepting this record and given the second record with photos, I don't feel a pale Thayer's gull can be entirely eliminated with the material presented. Most problematic are the primary tips that appear dark in photo E.
Terry S.. 11 Feb 2011 No, ID While this may well be an Iceland Gull I don't feel the description in the narrative eliminated a pale Thayers.  The photo is not clear enough to me to help make a determination.

2nd round  

14 May 2011 No, ID  
Jack S..   2nd round 14 May 2011 No, ID This could be a Kumlien's type however the photographs cannot eliminate the more-commonly-found-in-our-area Thayer's Gull. I note dark centered tertials and dark primary tips on the bird in photo E. The overall coloration of the bird, size, bill size and color are also consistent with a paler Thayer's.
Mark S. 17 Feb 2011 No, ID This bird may indeed be an Iceland Gull, but I don't think it's clear enough to say that it couldn't be a pale Thayer's. The photos don't show enough to eliminate this possibility, and nothing in the description allows us to definitively eliminate pale Thayer's either. The all dark bill is better for Thayer's than Iceland, and we have nothing to go on with regards to wingtip detail or eye color. Given that there is overlap in all features between Thayer's and Iceland, and that Thayer's would be the more expected form in Utah, the burden of proof is to demonstrate that it is clearly an Iceland. I don't think that this record achieves that.

2nd round  

18 Apr 2011 No, ID  
Merrill W. 12 Mar 2011 No, ID  

  

2011-02  Red-breasted Sapsucker

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 10 Jan 2011 No, ID I am concerned about the rather extensive black and white markings on the side of the neck.  I really question whether or not this is a hybrid Red-breasted/Red-naped Sapsucker.  Sibley says that on occasion the head pattern of the Red-breasted can actually approach that of a Red-naped, and perhaps this is a pure Red-breasted, but I would like to see what others have to say before I am willing to vote yes on this bird.

2nd round  

13 Mar 2011 No, ID I still feel this is likely a hybrid, certainly not a pure Red-breasted.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc It's possible this bird has some Red-naped in him, but it's predominately a Red-breasted.

2nd round  

28 Apr 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 Acc  

2nd round  

16 Jul 2011 No, ID This is a tough one. It looks like a Red-breasted SS but the black on the head is more than typically found on a pure RBS. Given the less than 100% certainty, I have to vote to not accept.
Colby N. 5 Feb 2011 No, ID I think the extensive pale/black feather on side of the head leading up to the eye suggests that this bird is likely a Red-naped X Red-breasted Sapsucker hybrid.
Ron R. 4 Feb 2011 No, ID This bird clearly looks like a hybrid red-breasted x red-naped (most likely). The pattern of white lines and extensive black on the face are consistent with hybrids and not pure red-breasted birds.

2nd round  

20 May 2011 No, ID There is far too much black and white striping on the face for this to be a male red-breasted. The only possibility is a female of the southern subspecies (S. r. daggetti), but there is still far too much black and white on the face.
Terry S.. 7 Feb 2011 Acc To me this looks good for a southern race (daggetti) of a Red-breasted Sapsucker.

2nd round  

18 Apr 2011 Acc I still believe this is a Red-breasted Sapsucker with little or no hybridization with Red-naped Sapsucker
Jack S.. 17 Feb 2011 Acc  

2nd round  

18 Apr 2011 No, ID While I still feel this bird could be a pure Red-breasted Sapsucker (dagetti), I cannot rule out the possibility of a hybrid. Thus, I'm changing my vote to not accept the record.
Mark S. 17 Feb 2011 No, ID While this bird clearly has some Red-breasted in it, the amount of black on the head, incongruous markings on the head, with red bleeding over the black, etc. all scream "hybrid" to me. This looks like a Red-breasted x Red-naped.

2nd round  

13 Mar 2011 No, ID I still feel this is likely a hybrid, certainly not a pure Red-breasted.
Merrill W. 12 Mar 2011 Acc  

  

2011-03  Yellow-bellied Sapsucker

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 13 Jan 2011 No, ID The description I feel is lacking in the necessary details to support Yellow-bellied Sapsucker.  The photos also have features suggestive of Red-naped, such as quite extensive red throat on photo #1.  I don't see a red nape, but this can certainly be variable, or even absent in Red-naped.  We don't see the back well, but there is a suggestion that there could be more or less two lines of spotting, again suggestive of Red-naped.  I suspect this is either a Red-naped, or a hybrid, not  a pure Yellow-bellied.

2nd round  

30 Mar 2011 No, ID  
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc I'm not sure about this bird, and could probably be convinced this is an abberant RN Sapsucker. It appears to lack any red on the nape and the black throat border appears complete especially in photo B, however, the white on the face and white spotting on the back is not as prominent as I would expect in a YB....

2nd round  

28 Apr 2011 No, ID  
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 No, ID These birds appear to be Red-naped Sapsuckers. The backs do not show the extensive white barring found on Yellow-bellied Sapsuckers.

2nd round  

16 Jul 2011 No, ID  
Colby N. 5 Feb 2011 No, ID Insufficient photos to conclusively id bird as a Yellow-bellied. The lack of red nape does not necessarily mean this is a Yellow-bellied Sapsucker.
Ron R. 4 Feb 2011 No, ID These individuals appear to be red-naped without a red napes (does happen, maybe they are related). Characteristics more consistent with red-naped include black face band that is wider than either white facial bands, red in the throat "invades" the black malar stripe, extensive red on crown, and there is no hint of yellow on the breast of either birds.

2nd round  

20 May 2011 No, ID See comments from round 1.
Terry S.. 11 Feb 2011 No, ID While the larger photographs of the single bird show a head,neck and throat pattern that resembles a Male YBSS the back does not seem to show the extensive, white, diffuse barring which is typical of YBSS. I really can't see enough of the second bird to make a determination. The narrative sheds very little light on the observation to help with this sighting.

2nd round  

18 Apr 2011 No, ID  
Jack S..      

2nd round  

20 Apr 2011 No, ID  
Mark S. 17 Feb 2011 No, ID Looks like a classic Red-naped Sapsucker to me, except for not having a red nape. The back pattern appears to be in two rows, the white supercillium is narrow behind the eye, and the black border on the throat looks incomplete.

2nd round  

18 Par 2011 No, ID As per my previous comments.
Merrill W. 12 Mar 2011 No, ID  

  

2011-04  Yellow-billed Cuckoo

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 1 Feb 2011 Acc Not the most enjoyable way to experience a Yellow-billed Cuckoo, but there is no question as to the identification.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 Acc  
Colby N. 5 Feb 2011 Acc interesting record
Terry S.. 6 Mar 2011 Acc  
Jack S.. 21 Mar 2011 Abst  
Mark S. 17 Feb 2011 Acc Nothing beats specimen in hand.
Merrill W. 16 Mar 2011 Acc  

  

2011-05  Cackling Goose

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 1 Feb 2011 Acc  The head shape and bill size certainly suggest Cackling rather than Lesser Canada. I wish vocalizations could have been heard. I believe this is one of the larger Cackling subspecies even though the size differential in the photos is not dramatic, compared with Lesser Canada.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 Acc  
Colby N. 5 Feb 2011 Acc Good photos and great description. I agree that this bird may not be identifiable to subspecies in that it exhibits traits of both taverneri and hutchinsii.
Terry S.. 6 Mar 2011 Acc Excellent narrative and discussion.
Jack S.. 21 Mar 2011 Acc  
Merrill W. 16 Mar 2011 Acc  

        

2011-06  Iceland Gull

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 1 Feb 2011 Acc This very thoroughly described bird most certainly must be an adult Iceland Gull, and I feel comfortable voting in favor of this record without photographic confirmation.

2nd round  

30 Mar 2011 Acc  
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 No, ID I really don't know what to do with this record....the description is good for a Kumlien's Gull, however, the record links photos of gulls taken a couple weeks later in a different county. I suppose it's possible, if extremely unlikely, that one of the birds in the photos were the same individual observed at Lee Kay (?). In addition, the photos certainly appear to be of two different birds. However, the birds in the photos also appear to be Kumlien's Gulls ......?

2nd round  

30 Mar 2011 No, ID  
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 Acc  

2nd round  

16 Jul 2011 Acc I am voting to accept the 3 Jan sighting only. The later photos are likely different birds.
Colby N. 5 Feb 2011 Acc sufficient photo and good description
Ron R.    2nd round   20 May 2011 No, ID I'm with Rick on this one. The photos do not necessarily show the same bird and as such, should not be included with the written record. I feel this needs to be made into two records for evaluation (the written record and a second record built around the photos). Even though they might be the same bird, different counties, a significant time gap, and no definitive marks (e.g., missing feather) bring into question whether these are the same bird.
Terry S.. 6 Mar 2011 Acc Great documentation. a very thorough write-up and excellent photos

2nd round  

18 Apr 2011 Acc  
Jack S.. 24 Mar 2011 Acc Good field notes!

2nd round  

9 Apr 2011 Acc Upon acceptance the extraneous 'Additional material' should be deleted. While the individuals photographed are likely Iceland Gulls, they are mostly likely not the bird described in this writeup.
Mark S.   2nd round 16 April 2011 Acc I missed the first round on this record, but my feelings are that the written record is excellent, and am voting to accept that. I don't know why the photos were included with this record, as I think that there is considerable doubt as to whether these are all the same bird - the time and location separation are too great for any certainty there. The original observer states that one of those birds looked very similar to the one they saw, however, I can't really consider that photo as valid evidence for this record. But I think the record stands on it's own merits.
Merrill W. 16 Mar 2011 Acc  

  

2011-07  Iceland Gull

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 1 Feb 2011 Acc I do wish we had a written description of this bird as there are certain aspects of the photos that I wish were more definitive, such as leg color, which is probably pink, but difficult to be sure. A photo does not obviate the need for written descriptions on bird reports. However I feel this is an Iceland Gull and am voting to accept.

2nd round  

30 Mar 2011 Acc  
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 No, ID This is a tough one as well....This appears to be one of those tricky birds on the line between Kumlein's / Thayer's. In the northeast I wouldn't hesitate to call this a (dark) first-cycle Kumlien's Gull and the west coast I'd probably go with a pale Thayer's Gull. Probability suggests a Thayer's (although a very pale one) as do the smudginess on the face and generally blurry markings (even darker Kumlien's appear to be more distinctly patterned on the back and wings).

2nd round  

30 Mar 2011 No, ID  
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 No, ID This bird has a fairly large bill, much larger than typical Iceland. The body shape and coloration of this bird is similar to some small first winter Glaucous-winged Gulls, which the observer did not eliminate in his report. I would like see more discussion of this record.

2nd round  

16 Jul 2011 No, ID  
Colby N.      
Ron R. 26 Mar 2011 Acc I am very reluctant to accept a record with no descriptive text. Given the quality of the photos, this appears to be a first winter bird. I feel we need some standards for what constitutes a complete record. Perhaps with regard to this record, attaching some of the Birdtalk correspondence that outlines specific ID marks should be added to make the record more complete.

2nd round  

20 May 2011 Acc I feel the photos, especially B', strongly support this being an Iceland (Kumlien's) gull. Most important are the very pale, darker primary webs that do not go all the way to the primary edge. In Thayer's, the webs would be darker and would extend to the primary tips.
Terry S.. 13 Mar 2011 No, ID Since there is no narrative given for this record and no other gulls in the picture there is nothing to evaluate for size comparison  The proportion of bill size seems larger than I would expect for an Iceland Gull and the shape of the head doesn't seem as small and rounded as I would expect for this species.

2nd round  

18 Apr 2011 No, ID  
Jack S.. 27 Mar 2011 Acc More consistent with Iceland Gull compared to Thayer's Gull.

Below is a rather interesting paragraph from the Iceland(Kumlien's)/Thayer's Gull's monograph in "The Birds of North America Online" series written by an authority on this complex, Richard Snell.

"The taxonomy of Iceland and Thayer s gulls is unsettled, and whether they should be treated as 1 or 2 species is disputed. These birds share a breeding habitat distinct from Herring Gull (L. argentatus). Breeding chronologies are similar. Morphological and plumage characters overlap broadly. My studies, heretofore unpublished, are suggestive of continuous phenotypic variation from darkest to lightest extremes in plumage of adults across the breeding range. Where breeding ranges of kumlieni and thayeri overlap (e. Baffin I., e. Southampton I., Digges Sound), there is no evidence of assortative mating: gulls as dark or darker than the type of thayeri bred with others much lighter than the type of kumlieni, including birds lacking visible wing-tip melanism. Based on this, I believe only 1 species should be recognized with all taxa placed under Iceland Gull. Where practical, discussions in this account combine the 3 taxa involved (nominate glaucoides, kumlieni, and thayeri) as a whole. The names  Iceland Gull  and  Thayer s Gull  are used when referring to the taxa as separate species following current classification by the American Ornithologists  Union (1998).

2nd round  

10 Jul 2011 No, ID I still feel this bird is slightly more consistent with a Kumlien's, however I cannot rule out a lighter Thayer's. Thus, I'm changing my vote to not accept the record as an Iceland's Gull.
Mark S.      

2nd round  

16 Apr 2011 No, ID  I'm troubled by the lack of description, and unconvinced by the birdnet discussion reference. The photos show a first cycle bird that could be either a pale Thayer's or a Kumlien's. I don't think they (the photos) are clear enough with regard to such details as bill coloration and tail pattern to get much help there, and the head shape (not round enough) and bill shape (a bit heavy) look a bit better for Thayer's than Iceland to me. The wingtip markings, however, look good for Kumlien's, at least as well as they can be seen in these photos. I'm left with too many doubts to accept.
Merrill W. 16 Mar 2011 No, ID  

  

2011-08  Western Gull

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 15 Feb 2011 Acc This same limping Gull has been present at Farmington Bay well into February, and I believe without question it is a Western Gull. As Cliff points out, all other contenders can be safely ruled out.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc Nice thorough description.

I have some flight photos of this gull if anyone is interested.
Steve H. 5 Feb 2011 Acc  
Colby N. 5 Feb 2011 Acc  
Ron R. 2 Apr 2011 Acc Characteristics of this bird strongly suggest Western Gull, including size, black primaries, pink legs, darkish mantle, mottled head and underparts, and bi-colored bill. Other species are safely eliminated. It is still possible, however, that this bird is a hybrid with glaucous-winged as the bird has paler upperwing coverts than might be expected for pure Western. Also, the mantle color in the photos suggests it may not be as dark as might be expected for pure Western. However, these could also be due to the photos, not real coloration. The black primaries suggest that if the bird is a hybrid, it is unlikely a first generation hybrid. Given that, I'm voting for Western.
Terry S.. 13 Mar 2011 Acc Very well documented with good photos.
Jack S.. 2 Apr 2011 Acc  

  

2011-09  Yellow-bellied Sapsucker

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 13 Mar 2011 No, ID This is clearly not a Red-naped Sapsucker.  The back and the late moulting shout Yellow-bellied.  However I am concerned about a couple of things.  The black moulding around the red throat in the photos is not nearly as clear cut as the written description would suggest.  In fact I am not at all certain that it is complete, and if it is, at the posterior point it is very thin.  Also there is a suggestion of some pink coloration on the nape.  I think there is the distinct possibility this is a hybrid and cannot vote for it as a pure Yellow-bellied.

2nd round  

10 May 2011 Acc After reviewing others comments and re-evaluating the photos I am changing my vote to a yes.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc Definitive photos

2nd round  

28 Apr 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 27 Feb 2011 Acc Photos show typical markings of a late first-winter YB Sapsucker.

2nd round  

16 Jul 2011 Acc  
Colby N.      
Ron R. 17 Apr 2011 Acc This bird appears to be in transition from an immature to an adult male. The timing of this molt, the extensive white bars on the back, pattern of red on the head and wide width of the white head stripes are all consistent with yellow-bellied sapsucker.

2nd round  

20 May 2011 Acc  
Terry S.. 22 Mar 2011 Acc Given the date of observation and apparent juvenile plumage I believe this is a good sighting of a yellow-bellied Sapsucker

2nd round  

5 May 2011 Acc  
Jack S.. 20 Apr 2011 Acc I feel the following plumage markers are all consistent with SY male YBSA.

-SY Bird w/juv head & breast plumage in February
-Nape without red
-Red throat & chin
-Broad white stripes both above and below faint dark eyeline
-Distinct broadish black malar separating red chin/throat from white of head
-Apparent speckling of red feathers in crown
-Significant white on back, even on feathers centrally located (no obvious dark line separating white feathering on either side)

2nd round  

21 Apr 2011 Acc  
Mark S. 17 Feb 2011 Acc Examination of the photographs (the observer is obviously not experienced enough to do a thorough written analysis of this i.d.) suggests to me that this is a Yellow-bellied Sapsucker, with every possible feature supporting that conclusion. The molt timing (late from juvenile/immature to adult plumage) and pattern (crown brownish, with red appearing throughout, including the rear of the crown, rather than just the forehead) should by itself eliminate Red-naped. In addition, the plumage features that are emerging point to Yellow-bellied. The white facial stripes are wide, the barrings on the back are not organized into two rows, and it appears that the throat patch may end up with a complete black border.

2nd round  

21 Apr 2011 Acc I think a small number of YBSS do show a tinge of red in the nape, which is why, coupled with the occasional absence of red in RNSS, that particular field mark is not particularly reliable. Given that I can see nothing else in this bird that is not typical of YBSS, I think that the possibility that this individual is a hybrid is remote.
Merrill W.      

  

2011-10  Black Swan

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 13 Mar 2011 No, Nat This bird clearly is not a naturally occurring bird in Utah, although it is just a clearly a Black Swan.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 No, Nat No question on the ID being a Black Swan, but I doubt it is a wild bird. Black Swans are commonly domesticated in the U.S. and there are several in the St. George area.
Ron R. 17 Apr 2011 No, Nat Clearly a black swan, but very unlikely a wild bird. The leg band also supports this.
Terry S.. 22 Mar 2011 No, Nat This is obviously an escaped or introduced bird. I agree with the suggestion of placing this on the special sightings page.
Jack S.. 19 Apr 2011 No, Nat  
Mark S. 16 Apr 2011 No, Nat Nice Black Swan. I wonder from where it escaped.

     

2011-11  Curve-billed Thrasher

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 13 Mar 2011 Acc Great find. The photos I feel are definitive.
Rick F. 27 Feb 2011 Acc Nice record.
Steve H. 27 Feb 2011 Acc  
Ron R. 17 Apr 2011 Acc Nice photos. Clearly show the strongly curved bill of intermediate length, dark base to the lower mandible, and roundish spots on the breast and belly.
Terry S.. 22 Mar 2011 Acc I believe the photos showing spots on the breast indicate this is Curved-billed Thrasher.
Jack S.. 19 Apr 2011 Acc  
Mark S. 16 Apr 2011 Acc No useful description, but the photos clearly show a Curve-billed Thrasher.

  

2011-12  Cackling Goose

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 30 Mar 2011 Acc This description is definitive enough I feel the ID is not in question even though we don't have a photograph.
Rick F. 8 Mar 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 16 Jul 2011 Acc  
Ron R. 17 Apr 2011 Acc Good description of minima subspecies. Combination of very small size and dark color eliminates Canada subspecies.

I feel we should drop this species from the review list. It is apparent it is a rare but regular winter visitor and migrant. It has been recorded multiple times annually since being split from Canada goose and was in collections prior to the split.
Terry S.. 22 Mar 2011 Acc An excellent narrative.
Jack S.. 19 Apr 2011 Acc Excellent writeup
Mark S. 16 Apr 2011 Acc Excellent description and analysis of the most distinctive of the Cackling subspecies - all the pieces fit for this to be the right call. The only thing that could add to this would be a call.

  

2011-13A  Lesser Black-backed Gull (A)

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 30 Mar 2011 Acc The description and photos certainly confirm the ID. One or more of these same birds were seen by numerous observers. including myself. It seems most unusual for 4 of these birds to be seen together, but this bird is likely much less rare in Utah than we have assumed
Rick F. 28 Apr 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 16 Jul 2011 Acc Good photos showing all key marks.
Ron R. 20 May 2011 Acc Excellent photos of one individual clearly show this species. The record is for 4 individuals and indicates all were very similar to the photographed individual.
Terry S.. 4 May 2011 Acc  
Jack S.. 7 May 2011 Acc  
Mark S. 18 Apr 2011 Acc Excellent photos and description from a very experienced observer.

  

2011-13B  Lesser Black-backed Gull (B)

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 30 Mar 2011 Acc The description and photos certainly confirm the ID. One or more of these same birds were seen by numerous observers. including myself. It seems most unusual for 4 of these birds to be seen together, but this bird is likely much less rare in Utah than we have assumed
Rick F. 28 Apr 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 16 Jul 2011 Acc All marks mentioned in description and most observed in photos.
Ron R. 22 May 2011 Acc Photos show mostly black wing-tips, yellow legs and dark gray mantle characteristic of this species. Should be combined with record 2011-13A as part of materials for 4 individuals, or should be only two individiduals (1 and 2) assessed in separate records as there are no photos of individuals 3 and 4 submitted.
Terry S.. 4 May 2011 Acc  
Jack S.. 7 May 2011 Acc  
Mark S. 18 Apr 2011 Acc This one was a tougher call, because I'm not very trusting of judgments of mantle color on distant gulls, the observer's experience not withstanding, especially when the color in the photo looks inconclusive to me. However, the pattern of the black wingtip/white mirrors seems more consistent with LBBG than CAGU.

  

2011-14  Western Gull (2nd cycle)  [see record 2011-08b]

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 19 Apr 2011 Acc The photos are very definitive for a 2nd winter Western Gull. I believe this is the same bird seen by many, including myself.
Rick F. 28 Apr 2011 (No, ID) --> This is the same gull as in record 2011-08 and should be combined with that record
Steve H. 16 Jul 2011 Acc Good photos showing key marks.
Ron R. 20 May 2011 Acc Excellent photos and adequate discussion of other potential species and hybrids. The bird seems to be a pure or nearly pure Western. The bill is s little smaller than some Westerns.
Terry S.. 4 May 2011 Acc  
Jack S.. 7 May 2011 Acc  
Mark S. 18 Apr 2011 Acc Excellent documentation and photos.

     

2011-15  Western Gull (1st cycle)

Evaluator Date Vote Comment
Bob B. 10 May 2011 Acc This very detailed report by someone with longstanding experience with these birds has convinced me of the accuracy of this report in spite of the fact we don't have photos.
Rick F. 28 Apr 2011 Acc  
Steve H. 16 Jul 2011 Acc Description fits first cycle Western Gull.
Ron R. 20 May 2011 Acc Very well written description that safely eliminates other species. A GWxWestern hybrid is the only other possibility, but the description does not seem to support a well mixed cross. I am not real comfortable accepting difficult gull IDs without photos, and can entertain not accepting this if others are uncomfortable in not having definitive photos.
Terry S.. 4 May 2011 Acc Great narrative
Jack S.. 10 Jul 2011 Acc Although the observer only had 45 seconds of viewing time, the field marks described are consistent with this species.
Mark S. 18 Apr 2011 Acc Excellent description from an experienced observer.

   

 


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