2006-01 Hudsonian Godwit
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
23 Feb 2006 |
Acc |
|
Ronald R. |
20 Mar 2006 |
Acc |
Good written
description and marginal photos are sufficient to accept this record. |
Terry S. |
23 Feb 2006 |
Acc |
Excellent
description and careful elimination of similar species. Even the photos
helped! |
Mark S. |
9 Feb 2006 |
Acc |
Excellent
description and decent photos leave little doubt on this one. |
Larry T. |
16 Mar 2006 |
Acc |
|
Merrill W. |
25 Jan 2006 |
Acc |
Based on the photo
and the description I would have to rule out the similar Black-tailed
Godwit. |
David W. |
2 Feb 2006 |
Acc |
Though the bill appears only slightly upcurved in the photos, the length
appears to be more consistent with a Hudsonian rather than Black-tailed
godwit (which, to my mind, appears the only other possibility considering
the tail & rump coloration). The crucial observation about the dark
underwings was the clincher. |
2006-02 Little Blue Heron
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
5 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
Timing is very good
for an immature Little Blue Heron, however I believe immature Snowy Egrets
can also have green legs. |
Ronald R. |
20 Mar 2006 |
No, ID |
The description as
provided does not eliminate a juvenile snowy egret. Both species have
green legs at this age. A description of the bill, lores and wing tips
would be necessary to determine the species of this bird. |
Terry S. |
23 Feb 2006 |
No, ID |
I don't believe a
Juvenile Snowy Egret has been eliminated as a possibility since they can
show green in the legs. Description of the bill and lores would have
helped in separating the two species. |
Mark S. |
1 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
I don't think the
observer has adequately ruled out a juvenile Snowy Egret, that also has
greenish legs. There is no mention of dark wingtips, or bill color, that
would be needed to make the distinction. The time of year is consistant
with a juvenile Snowy Egret |
Larry T. |
16 Mar 2006 |
No, ID |
The leg color
certainly isn't enough to seperate a Little Blue in juvenile plumage from
a Snowy Egret. |
Merrill W. |
2 Feb 2006 |
No, ID |
This is a hard one,
especially since the immature Little Blue is so similar to an immature
Snowy. I don't think I can accept this as a Little Blue on the basis
of just the leg color since the immature Snowy also has greenish legs.
There could have been a better description of the bill color and
shape. |
David W. |
31 Jan 2006 |
No, ID |
I do not think an immature snowy egret was adequately eliminated. I would
have liked more discussion of bill & lore color, as well as the color of
the primary tips |
2006-03 Fulvous Whistling-Duck
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
5 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Very nice record,
and excellent photos. This was big winter for vagrant Fulvous
Whistling-Ducks in the southwest. |
Ronald R. |
20 Mar 2006 |
Acc |
Excellent photos and
description are sufficient to identify this species. The question of
natural occurrence is always an issue,
but the lack of leg bands, other markings or unusually warn plumage
indicate that these were likely wild birds. |
Terry S. |
23 Feb 2006 |
Acc |
What a great record
with excellent photos and substantial narrative of the description of the
birds! |
Mark S. |
1 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
The extensive
written description and the excellent photos leave no doubt as to the
identification. The only debate left would be the natural occurrence of
these birds. I don't see any evidence that would suggest that these are
escapees, and several things that would support there natural occurrence.
I would be unlikely that three birds would escape together, but a
gregarious species such as this would be expected to wander in a small
group. Also, there appears to have been an
invasion of sorts of this species throughout the west. In west Mexico,
there was certainly a spike in the population for this species this
winter. |
Larry T. |
16 Mar 2006 |
Acc |
No question about
the ID. There seemed to be quite a few showing up in other areas this
winter so I don't think natural occurrence is a problem. |
Merrill W. |
25 Jan 2006 |
Acc |
Excellent photos.
No sign of leg bands. Description of behavior seems to rule out
escaped birds as well as the fact there were 3-4 birds together.
Plus, additional sightings in other states out of normal range probably
indicate these are wild birds. |
David W. |
31 Jan 2006 |
Acc |
Detailed description and fabulous photos leave no doubt in my mind.
As for whether these ducks are wild in origin, I believe the fact that
there are three individuals in this flock, along with the "eruption" of
this species this year described on the Birdnet (increased sightings both
in this country and Mexico), make a convincing argument for accepting
these three individuals as a valid record. |
2006-04 Boreal Owl
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
5 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Another nice record.
Excellent photos. |
Ronald R. |
20 Mar 2006 |
Acc |
Great photos clearly
identify this species. |
Terry S. |
23 Feb 2006 |
Acc |
The photos very
clearly show a Boreal Owl. |
Mark S. |
1 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Nice description and
photos. I don't think the bird would have been transported by vehicle from
out of state along that road, and vehicle transport would not seem likely
given the bird's condition. |
Larry T. |
16 Mar 2006 |
Acc |
Nice Photos. |
Merrill W. |
2 Feb 2006 |
Acc |
I like the photos,
and I feel the description adequately separates it from the Saw-whet Owl. |
David W. |
31 Jan 2006 |
Acc |
Although the description was puzzlingly inadequate for someone who had
seen this owl in the hand, the photos are decisive. I am surprised at the
choice of field marks, as I would have expected a description of the
facial disk and forehead spotting to be front and center (no pun intended)
in differentiating this species from a Saw-whet owl. |
2006-05(R83) Chestnut-collared Longspur
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
5 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
This is a tricky
one, the timing, short tail, and vocalizations are all good for a
longspur. The described tail pattern seems to
have too much white for tundra longspur and too much black for a McCown's. |
2nd round |
3 May 2006 |
No, ID |
Okay you'll
convinced me that I should accept this as a 'Prairie' Longspur. |
Ronald R. |
1 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I don't think the
record is sufficient to rule out McCown's longspur. The drawing of the
tail is a bit perplexing both in shape and the lack of connection of the
black of the tail with the dark rump. |
2nd round |
8 May 2006 |
No, ID |
My comments from the
first round apply. I also acknowledge the ID issues raised by others. |
Terry S. |
5 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
While the date of
sighting(Oct.9) and location (foothill grassland) seem good for a
Chestnut-collared Longspur in Utah the actual description of the bird is
very sparse. I don't think other female or basic male longspurs have been
effectively ruled out. The description of the tail sounds good but the
observer only saw the bird for a few seconds as it flushed and flew off.
It seems the tail pattern would be difficult to describe with any
certainty with such a short and bird in flight observation. |
2nd round |
3 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I am again voting
not to accept this record based on my previous comments. |
Mark S. |
5 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
Although this is a
better description than most of the early records, I'm concerned about the
apparent brevity of the sighting
along with the incomplete description that results. The i.d. is made from
the tail pattern alone, and though distinctive in this species, without
further details of the bird, it's hard to rule out an individual of any
number of other species that might have an abnormal amount of white in the
tail. With so few sightings of this species in Utah, it's hard to say
whether the date and location are appropriate. I'd like to see some
discussion on this record. |
2nd round |
3 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I still think the
sighting was too brief to be sure about this i.d., especially given how
rare a record this would represent. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
The description is
very limited. Not much to go on to eliminate similar species. |
2nd round |
28 May 2006 |
No, ID |
|
Merrill W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
About the only
fieldmark there is to go on is the sketch of the tail--not much else.
I don't feel there is enough of a description to definitely state that
this is a longspur even. |
2nd round |
25 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I vote not to accept
this based on what I mentioned in the first round: there isn't enough
information to justify calling it a Chestnut-collared Longspur. |
David W. |
1 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
The observer did not adequately eliminate the possibility of a
juvenile/female McCowen's longspur, which have similar tails and can be
drab brownish & streaky. |
2nd round |
3 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I'm sticking with my
first-round vote, for all the same reasons. This may have been a
Chestnut-collared, but I am not convinced other possibilities have been
eliminated. |
2006-06(R83) Hooded Warbler
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
5 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Fine description of
one of the most distinctive warblers. |
Ronald R. |
1 May 2006 |
Acc |
I think this is an
acceptable description of a distinctive bird. All important field marks
were observed. |
Terry S. |
8 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
All the key field
marks were noted for this distinctive species |
Mark S. |
5 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Good description of
a distinctive species. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
A male Hooded
Warbler is a very distinct bird.The description eliminates other species. |
Merrill W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
When I submitted
this record the first time Ella et.al. refused to accept it because it was
a single observer sighting. I told her later that I should have shot
it, but it was so close, and with a shot gun there would have been
precious little to observe, although the thought occurred to me more than
once. It definitely was a Hooded Warbler. Based on what I saw
and the description of what I wrote there isn't much else for me to say. |
David W. |
1 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
This record leaves little doubt in my mind (combination of all yellow
below, white in outer retrices, and black hood that wraps around the
breast), though there are some oddities/omissions:
1) The record is late for this species. Hooded warblers should have left
the USA by the end of October. However, there are casual records for
November, and, it must be admitted, this was a "lost" individual.
2) The habitat was more open than one would expect. This species seems
very fond of thick undergrowth, often of the lush variety. Again, one
could, to some degree, invoke the lost bird argument.
3) It would have been nice to have a description of how far up the
breast/throat/chin the black breast band extended. The shape of the breast
band is helpful in eliminating many similar species.
4) Odd that the tail flaring behavior was not mentioned.
Similar species (eliminated):
>Canada warblers have black in face and lack white in outer tail feathers,
etc.
>Hermit warblers have white bellies & flanks. |
2006-07(R83) Brambling
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
3 May 2006 |
Acc |
Very brief, but
adequate description. |
Ronald R. |
1 May 2006 |
Acc |
An adequate
description of a well observed bird. This individual brambling was seen by
many (including me) during December, 1983 in Logan. |
Terry S. |
8 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
This is a very
distinctive species and field marks observed clearly indicate a Brambling |
Mark S. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Like the observer
notes, I'm not sure with what this could be confused. The head markings,
breast color and wing markings as described are rather unique. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
It would be nice to
see the photos but description seems to be good for a Brambling. |
Merrill W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Pretty complete
description. Plus, I remember this bird and the circumstances
surrounding its sighting. Not sure I saw this one, but timing
coincides with other sightings in Cache County. |
David W. |
1 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
This record is imperfect but appears adequate to me:
1) Good time of year & behavior (Bramblings are shy).
2) The collar on a winter female should be gray or pale gray rather than
white. But I suppose pale gray could be seen as white.
3) Cheeks should be pale brown contrasting with the gray collar, and not
gray. However, one source does describe the cheeks as grayish brown, so
again this field mark does not seem fatal to the ID.
4) I wish the nature of the apricot/dark "bands" on the wings had been
better described. Do these "bands" refer to streaks caused by flight
feather edgings (as is found in several species) or do they refer to
wingbars (scapulars and greater & lesser coverts) such as are found in
fewer species (incl. Bramblings)? To me, "bands" sound more like the
latter.
Comparison to similar species:
> Lapland longspur female/juvenile is eliminated by the gray cheeks, light
rump, and apricot rather than buffy breast. Otherwise that species is
similar to the description of the Brambling.
> Tristran's bunting was the closest-matching Emberiza genus bunting (many
of which share various combinations of field marks described, and some of
which look superficially similar to a Brambling) that I could find.
However, Tristan's buntings have a dark reddish-brown rump and different
head markings, and aren't any more likely to occur in Utah than a
Brambling.
In short, I really don't know what other species this could be other than
a Brambling.
It is unfortunate that the photo has been lost. Milt, is there any chance
of contacting the photographer to have it replaced, as this is such an
unusual sighting? |
2006-08(R82) Wood Thrush
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 May 2006 |
No, ID |
Size, relative to
other birds is somewhat convincing; timing is peculiar; however the sparse
description (particularly the face
pattern and "pale yellow or buff undertail coverts") does not adequately
limit Catharus thrushes. |
2nd round: |
26 May 2006 |
No, ID |
As per first round comments, timing is questionable, and description does
not adequately eliminate Catharus thrushes. |
Ronald R. |
8 May 2006 |
Acc |
I think this is a
adequate description of a relatively distinct species. Description of the
facial pattern, head and back, and
underparts should eliminate other similar thrushes. Direct comparison with
hermit thrush was good. |
2nd round: |
5 Jul 2006 |
No, ID |
While this may have been a Wood Thrush, I am changing my vote based on the
the unusual timing of this record (thanks David for the information) and
on what may be insufficient field marks. A more thorough description that
would rule out the other Catharus thrushes is necessary. |
Terry S. |
6 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
While some parts of
this record sound good for a Wood Thrush such as the comparative size with
other thrushes that were present and the chunky fat appearance, the
description leaves out field marks that are important. There was no
mention of the contrasting color of the head and back. Little or no
description was given for the color of the under parts and the color and
size of the breast spots and how far they extended into the belly. The eye
ring and cheek streaking were mentioned
but sounded from the description they were faint and not a prominant field
mark. |
2nd round: |
31 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I still have concerns with this record as stated previously |
Mark S. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
I think the
description adequately eliminates the possibility of a heavily spotted
Hermit Thrush, which is the only other thrush I can think of that might
fit this bird. The rufous crown and nape, along with the steaks on the
auriculars should by themselves eliminate Hermit Thrush. |
2nd round: |
12 Jul 2006 |
No, ID |
Thanks to David's research on the dates, I'll change my vote. There are
enough ambiguities about the description that, though it sounds like a
Wood Thrush, I don't think the evidence is strong enough to demonstrate
the presence of a Wood Thrush so far out of the regular expected season. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
This is a very
puzzling record. The description sounds pretty good for a Wood Thrush but
the date would have to be of a wintering bird.Are there any over wintering
records of this bird in the west? And this far north. |
2nd round: |
28 May 2006 |
No, ID |
As above. |
Merrill W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
It was nice that
Helen had other thrushes nearby with which to compare this one. The
size, shape and color seem to be accurate descriptions of this species. |
2nd round: |
17 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
I still feel the description is adequate; therefore I am staying with my
original vote. |
David W. |
1 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
The size (incl. comparison to birds next to it), facial stripes, and
rufous upperparts clinch it for me.
A Swainson's thrush is larger than a Hermit thrush, but only barely, and
certainly nowhere near the 8 1/2" long described for this bird. I do wish
there had been a better description of the spots to strengthen the ID.
I am curious whether the early date is troubling to anyone else on the
Committee. |
2nd round: |
17 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I am starting to question whether this ID truly eliminates other thrushes.
I still believe this bird was a Wood thrush, but am no
longer as confident.
I have looked into the migration patterns for the Wood thrush (using "The
Birds of North America Online" -- from Cornell & AOU), and it is shown to
start arriving in USA in mid April (over a full month after this record).
The winter range for the species is central Mexico to Panama, so is not
very close to Utah (while the Hermit thrush can regularly be found in the
Salt Lake Valley area year-round). The winter records in the USA for this
species are for early winter, and it is presumed that
those individuals did not survive into spring. Therefore, the timing of
this record is very unusual indeed.
The description, though in several respects very convincing for a Wood
thrush, is somewhat vague. The size differential between this bird and the
nearby Hermit thrush is not really quantified, so the absolute measurement
is less convincing.
I will change my vote to be conservative on this record -- not because I
think the description is wrong, but because it is a bit vague and the
timing is very suspicious. |
2006-09(R82) Philadelphia Vireo
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 May 2006 |
No, ID |
The description is
marginal for such a challenging vagrant. I would have liked to have seen
more on shape, size, etc. (Phil. Vireos are noticeably different-shaped
than Warbler, Red-eyed etc, (more stocky/plump, long undertail coverts,
short thin tail...). Also info on crown and primary contrast would have
been helpful. I do like the (somewhat vague) comment "yellow from chin to
belly". (I've found that one of the best characteristics (besides shape)
is the location of the yellow on the undersides...with Warbling Vireos
having the brightest yellow on the flanks, and Philadelphia Vireos, in all
plumages, having the brightest yellow on the center of the chest, . So
perhaps, I could be swayed by some discussion, but I don't believe the
description adequately eliminates a bright spring swainsoni Warbling
Vireo. |
2nd round: |
26 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I'll stand by my first round comments, the description simply is not
adequate to eliminate a Swainsonii Warbling Vireo, which can show
extensive bright yellow on the undersides. No mention is made of several
key characteristics (size, shape, contrasting crown and primaries,
distribution of yellow on undersides, etc.) that I believe are necessary
to clinch this difficult id. |
3rd round: |
17 Jul 2006 |
No, ID |
As per 1st and 2nd round comments, there simply is not enough in the
description to accept this record. Philadelphia Vireos are rare throughout
the west, very similiar to several other species, and difficult to
identify, therefore I find it hard to accept this record with such a
limited description. |
Ronald R. |
8 May 2006 |
Acc |
I feel this is an
acceptable description of a difficult ID. Most important in separating
this from a warbling vireo are the dark
lores and yellow in the center of the throat and breast. |
2nd round: |
5 Jul 2006 |
No, ID |
I am changing my vote based upon comments from the other reviewers
concerning the possibility of this bird being a bright warbling vireo.
There seems to be insufficient information on the overall shape, location
of the brightest yellow on the breast, the darkness of the lores, and
shape of the supercilium to eliminate warbling vireo. |
3rd round: |
28 Jul 2006 |
No, ID |
My comments from round two still apply. Just not enough information for a
convincing record of a difficult ID. |
Terry S. |
15 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
While this
description is rather concise the dark stripe running through the eye
becoming darker in the lores is a good field mark for Philidelphia Vireo.
The yellow underparts that are brightest yellow in the throat and chest
region is also good. I wish better description of the overall shape of the
bird was given including the length of the tail. |
2nd round: |
31 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I am changing my vote not to accept this record. Other comments have
convinced me that the description does not adequately rule out a bright
Warbling Vireo. While the dark loral area sounds good, too much is missing
from the rest of the description to rely on this characteristic alone. |
3rd round: |
18 Jul 2006 |
No, ID |
Same as my second round comments |
Mark S. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
The analysis of
similar species in this record is faulty as the intensity of the color
alone does not safely eliminate all Warbling
Vireos. However, his note that the eyeline became darker in the lores is
sufficient to eliminate Warbling Vireo, which should not have any dark in
the loral area. |
2nd round: |
12 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
I still have trouble reconciling the descrption of the eyeline with a
bright Warbling Vireo. Although identifications should never be made on
only one field mark, the rest of the description is consistant with
Philadelphia Vireo. I think it's harder to explain this as a Warbling
Vireo than a Philadelphia. |
3rd round: |
18 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
As per my earlier comments. |
Larry T. |
6 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
The observer doesn't
do a very good job of eliminating a bright Warbling Vireo. |
2nd round: |
28 May 2006 |
No, ID |
There are more bad things about this description than good ones. The only
good things about it are the yellow underparts (but he doesn't say where
it was the brightest like the center of the breast ) and the dark eyeline
into the lores. And a Warbling can have some dark in the lores maybe not
as dark as a Philly but they can have some.
There is nothing about the shape of the bird which is much more compact
looking than a Warbling is. The head is rounder looking along with the
shorter tail make it look more like a large Kinglet. And the upperparts
shouldn't be uniform in color. You should see contrast from the nape to
the back.
He said he had never seen a Philly before and maybe not a bright
subspecies of Warbling either. Also the date is early for a philly which
is a later migrant than a Warbling. I would expect a spring Philly (which
is very rare in the west) to be from mid May on.
The description is just lacking to much for me to accept this as a
Philadelphia Vireo from someone without any experiance with them. |
3rd round: |
6 Aug 2006 |
No, ID |
|
Merrill W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
The observer
mentioned the extensive yellow on the underparts which for me eliminates
the Warbling Vireo. Stubby nature of the bird, mentioned by the
observer, also seems to eliminate the slimmer Warbling Vireo and the
Orange-crowned Warbler. |
2nd round: |
25 May 2006 |
Acc |
I still believe the description of the yellowish underparts elilminates
the Warbling Vireo. The description of the back and head also
eliminates the Warbling Vireo which seems to be more of an overall uniform
gray in color. |
3rd round: |
17 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
As mentioned above. Nothing new to add. |
David W. |
1 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Dark eyestripe becoming darker in the lores and distribution of yellow on
the upper breast (becoming less yellow in the belly) both eliminate
Warbling vireo. However, I was somewhat troubled by the statement that the
head was gray-green, uniform with the back. It should have been grayer
than the back.
Unfortunately, the shape of the supercilium behind the eye was not
mentioned, as that could have been helpful as well (it should be broader
for the Warbling vireo than the Philadelphia vireo). The Tennessee warbler
is eliminated with less certainty in my mind. I wish the observer had been
more specific as to how far down the belly the yellow extended. The
undertail coverts/vent area were undescribed. However, the Tennessee
warbler definitely does not have a short, stubby
bill. The warbler should have an even more obviuously contrasting gray
head. |
2nd round: |
17 May 2006 |
Acc |
|
3rd round: |
17 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
|
2006-10(R82) Philadelphia Vireo
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 May 206 |
No, ID |
I believe the
description is a better fit for a celata Orange-crowned Warbler or
possibly a Tenn. Warbler. There are several
aspects of the description, particularly the comment on upper breast
color, that are inconsistent with a Philadelphia Vireo. |
2nd round: |
26 May 2006 |
No. ID |
See comments on first round and for 2006-09. |
Ronald R. |
8 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I feel the described
bird is more like a bright warbling vireo than a Philadelphia. In
particular, the gray back and lack of
yellow in throat and chest are more like warbing vireo. |
2nd round: |
16 Jun 2006 |
No. ID |
My comments from the first round still apply. |
Terry S. |
15 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
This sounds like it
might be a bright Warbling Vireo. No mention is made of the dark line
through the eye becoming darker in the lores. Also a Philidelphia Vireo
should show brightest yellow in the throat region not the under-tail
coverts. No mention is made of the general morphological characteristics
including chunkines, length of tail, etc. |
2nd round: |
31 May 2006 |
No. ID |
|
Mark S. |
6 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
I don't think that
the description adequately eliminates bright subspecies of Warbling Vireo. |
2nd round: |
12 Jul 2006 |
No. ID |
I still think that this is a bright Warbling Vireo. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
Sounds like a
Warbling Vireo. |
2nd round: |
28 May 2006 |
No. ID |
|
Merrill W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
The description
seemed adequate to me, plus I think he eliminated the possibility that it
was a Warbling Vireo based on the description of the yellow underparts and
the size. |
2nd round: |
25 May 2006 |
No. ID |
I suppose the observer didn't adequately eliminate the possibility of
other species such as a Warbling Vireo or an Orange-crowned Warbler. |
David W. |
1 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
The observer didn't adequately eliminate the possibility of a bright
Warbling vireo.
The pattern of yellow is wrong for a Philadelphia, and more like a
Warbling vireo. Both species can have yellow underparts, but the
Philadelphia should always have the brightest yellow on the upper
breast/lower throat.
The lores were not discussed. They should be darker than the rest of the
eyestripe in the Philadelphia vireo (the Warbling vireo can have faintly
dark lores too, but they should be paler than behind the eye). The
description didn't specify that the eyestripe actually extended into the
lore region at all, let alone how dark it was.
Unfortunately, the shape of the supercilium behind the eye was not
mentioned, as that could have been helpful as well. |
2nd round: |
17 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I still believe this could have been a bright Warbling vireo. |
2006-11(R82) Hudsonian Godwit
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 May 2006 |
Acc |
Very scant
description, however (some) key characters were described. |
Ronald R. |
8 May 2006 |
Acc |
Adequate
description, especially wing and tail patterns. |
Terry S. |
15 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Very good
description. |
Mark S. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Dark wing linings,
among other noted features, eliminate other possibilities. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Good description. |
Merrill W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
No question on this
one. Dennis shot it, Clayton White of BYU stuffed it, and it is in
the museum collection at BYU. |
David W. |
4 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
The observer did a good job differentiating between a Hudsonian godwit and
the Bar-tailed & Marbled godwits (the tail alone pretty much clinched
those). However, I was surprised the observer chose to address the
similarity between the Bar-tailed godwit but not the much more similar
Black-tailed godwit. The latter species also shares a broad, white wingbar
(broader, in fact, on the upper surface of the wing), has an almost
identical tail, similar bill length, etc. However, the
Black-tailed godwit is eliminated by the dark ruddy belly color (darker
than breast), upturned bill, contrasting gray head and face in breeding
individual, and black wing lining.
I wish the white wing bar had been better described (was it diffuse as in
a Hudsonian or clearly demarkated as in a Black-tailed?). However, I feel
that the case for a Hudsonian godwit was clearly made. |
2006-12(R82) Scissor-tailed Flycatcher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
13 May 2006 |
Acc |
This is another very
brief description, however this are very striking and easily identified
birds (and nothing else is pale gray,
white, and salmon, with long black tail). |
2nd round: |
26 May 2006 |
Acc |
I concur with Merrill's expressed concerns about identifying an
out-of-range vagrant at 60 mph,...except in the case of something like a
Scissor-tailed Flycatcher. I've routinely identified (correctly, I
believe?) these strikingly distinctive birds while traveling 70 mph along
I-70 in Kansas. |
Ronald R. |
8 May 2006 |
Acc |
Adequate description
of a distinct species. |
2nd round: |
16 Jun 2006 |
Acc |
I still feel the description is adequate. |
Terry S. |
9 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Good description of
of this unmistakable species. |
2nd round: |
31 May 2006 |
Acc |
|
Mark S. |
6 Apr. 2006 |
Acc |
Good description of
a distinctive species. |
2nd round: |
12 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
|
Larry T. |
24 Apr. 2006 |
Acc |
Good time of year
for this very distinct species. |
2nd round: |
28 May 2006 |
Acc |
|
Merrill W. |
16 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I vote 'no'
based on the brevity of the sighting. Not long enough time to see all the
details listed.
(This comment is from memory, based on discussion with the observer, and
also the description he submitted). |
2nd round: |
25 May 2006 |
Acc |
I was interested in how other members might vote on this. The
contact with the observer that I had was that shortly after he saw this
bird he called me to tell me that he had seen it from the car as he was
traveling north at the speed of about 60 mph. He didn't stop to
study it, just saw it as he was traveling. In my mind I didn't feel
this was enough time to adequately make a correct identity. However,
seeing that everyone else on the committee thinks that its adequate, then
I will change my vote to accept. Apparently all of the important
fieldmarks were described, but I didn't feel that there was enough time to
do so. Therefore I will vote with the rest of you to accept. |
David W. |
1 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Clear description eliminates any other possibilities. |
2nd round: |
24 May 2006 |
Acc |
I would be very interested in hearing anything else Merrill might have to
say regarding what he knows regarding the record. But until I do, I will
vote on the record as presented. |
2006-13(R82) Least Flycatcher
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
26 May |
No, ID |
There is nothing in
the physical description of the bird that convinces me a Least Flycatcher
was observed. The plumage, shape and size description given could be of
any Empidonax flycatcher, and the comment that it "resembled a Western or
Gray Flycatcher" makes me question whether a Least Flycatcher was observed
(perhaps if he stated it resembled a Dusky or Hammond's Flycatcher...). On
the surface, the described "call" as "che-Bek" is some what convincing,
however the observer has "no prior experience" with seeing or HEARING
Least Flycatchers. The che-bek song of a Least Flycatcher is very
distinctive, however many other empids can give two note calls or portions
of songs. For example a quick look at popular field guides describes
Dusky's as giving a 'dew-hic' or "che-rip", Hammond's with a tsi-pik or
chi-pit , Gray with
chu-wip Cordillereans with a tee-seet or pit-peet , etc. The Kaufman guide
(1990) cautions that when the two-syllabled element of the !Hammond s
Flycatcher song is given by itself, it can strongly suggest the che-bek of
Least Flycatcher .
I'm not convinced solely based on a song description, without the
corroborating aid of a recording, photograph, or at minimum, a convincing
physical description. |
2nd round: |
11 Jun 2006 |
No, ID |
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3rd round: |
31
Jul 2006 |
No, ID |
Again, the description could be of any empid, and is not convincing for a
Least Flycatcher. And I agree the 'che-bek' call of the Least Flycatcher
is distinctive, however several other empids can repeatedly give a
two-note call that may be mistaken as 'che-bek' by someone who has never
heard a Least Flycatcher. |
Ronald R. |
8 May 2006 |
Acc |
Adequate description
of an Empidonax flycatcher. Description of distinct voice sufficient to
rule out other species. Habitat and date of observation consistent more
recent records. |
2nd round: |
28 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
I enjoyed the discussion on this record. However, I am voting again to
accept. I agree with Mark on this record: The calling
continuous calling behavior of the bird and the description of the call
are only consistent with a least flycather. |
3rd round: |
29 Sep 2006 |
Acc |
My comments from the first 2 rounds still apply. |
Terry S. |
9 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
While the physical
description of the bird is weak the description of the the repeated
vocaliztion is good for Least Flycatcher. If this record is accepted I
believe chronologically it would be the first state record. If I were
voting in 1982 I probably wouldn't accept the record without a better
description. I could be persuaded either way on this one. |
2nd round: |
31 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I have been persuaded that the observer's non-familiarity with the species
and the call makes this record suspect. |
3rd round: |
7 Sep 2006 |
No, ID |
|
Mark S. |
6 Apr. 2006 |
Acc |
Call noted clinches
this one. |
2nd round: |
12 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
I don't think that in 1982 the visual i.d. of Empidonax species was
well known or at least noted in the available references,
therefore I'm willing to overlook weakness in the description of the
appearance, as distinctive features of the flycatchers were largely
unknown. The conventional wisdom of the time was that Empids could be
identified only by voice. The voice of Least Flycatcher is one of the most
distinctive of the empids and exactly fits the description given here.
Although Hammond's, Dusky, and even Gray Flycatcher can give "che-bek"-like
notes, they don't do it repeatedly over an extended time (the observer
logged about 1 1/2 hours of time with this bird over two days). I would
think that over such a long time other calls would have been noted of it
were one of the other empids. "Loud and persistant" che-BEK sounds only
like Least Flycatcher to me. Also, the habitat and time of year don't
really fit for Hammond's, Dusky or especially Gray Flycatchers. !They are
completely consistant with our recent records for Least Flycatcher. |
3rd round: |
19 Oct 2006 |
Acc |
I still think that a continually calling (over two days of observation)
Least Flycatcher would be difficult to mistake for even an inexperienced
observer. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr. 2006 |
No, ID |
The call sounds good
for Least but for someone without any experiance with it I'm afraid to
accept it on that alone. It would be nice to have a better description of
the bird. |
2nd round: |
5 Jun 2006 |
No, ID |
I don't think there is enough to go on for this difficult ID. |
3rd round: |
6 Aug 2006 |
No, ID |
|
Merrill W. |
6 Apr. 2006 |
Acc |
Voice description
and size and coloration are pretty definitive. |
2nd round: |
17 Jul 2006 |
Acc |
I still feel like the call that the observer described eliminates all
other Empids; I still vote to accept it. |
3rd round: |
29 Sep 2006 |
Acc |
Same as before. If the observer heard the call notes and described
the notes I still feel that the description is adequate to accept. |
David W. |
6 Apr 2006 |
No, ID |
I was really torn on this one. If the observer really is familiar with all
the calls of the Empidonax flycatchers, then the presented field marks are
sufficient. But the observer made no mention of audio references and said
he had no personal experience with this species. Does that mean he was
simply basing his ID on written renderings in field guides? If so, that
introduces uncertainty to his ID. The Empidonax will sometimes call for
extensive periods with just a portion of their full calls (songs), and
some of those snippets could certainly be rendered as "chebek".
In the absence of information about the observer's access to audio tapes,
I would like to have seen information about bill shape & size relative to
other flycathcers rather than songbirds in general, bill color, tail
length, and relative head size jizz.
Also, what was the spacing between the calls? |
2nd round: |
31 May 2006 |
No, ID |
I still feel there is some room for doubt on this ID. |
3rd round: |
1 Aug 2006 |
No, ID |
I'm sticking with no on this one. There is ample room for doubt here. |
2006-14(R82) Black Scoter
Evaluator |
Date |
Vote |
Comment |
Rick F. |
26 May 2006 |
Acc |
Adequate
descriptions |
Ronald R. |
8 May 2006 |
Acc |
Both records have
good descriptions. |
Terry S. |
9 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
Very good
descriptions given. Other possible species effectively eliminated. |
Mark S. |
6 Apr. 2006 |
Acc |
Both descriptions
adequate. |
Larry T. |
24 Apr. 2006 |
Acc |
Good description of
a Black Scoter. |
Merrill W. |
6 Apr. 2006 |
Acc |
Mark Bromley and I
spent quite a bit of time trying to I.D. this one because it was new to
both of us. At about the time we had decided that it was a Black
Scoter Mike Tove drove up. We excitedly told him to look at this
bird, and before we could tell him what we thought it was, he exclaimed,
"Oh, it's a Black Scoter" matter-of-factly. So, a little history on
the discovery of this one. |
David W. |
14 Apr 2006 |
Acc |
I think the case was made, if only barely, for this not being a Ruddy
duck. I was troubled by the size given for the bird (far
smaller than a Black scoter!) and the description of the extent of the
throat patch (to just below malar region), but overall the balance of
evidence supports a Black scoter. |
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2006-13(R82)
Species_Name_1: Least Flycatcher
Vote_1: No, ID
Comment_1: I still feel there is some room for doubt on this ID.
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