Comments made on the
above questions:
Keeli
- I like the idea of #5 but I would also like to know how
much work that creates for the secretary. It seems like it would
be substantial.
I would be glad to
help created regional review lists.
Mark
- I think that a simple regions map, with a few easily
defined regions, is preferable to either counties or individual
species maps. While this change would add a level on complexity,
we can try to keep it as simple as
Max
- I would be happy to contribute some time with additional
committee members and/or the secretary to help create an
eco-region based list of review species specific to those regions.
Kris
- #2. If we include a county map, it needs an overlay of the
eco-regions given that some eco-regions may only partly cover some
counties. This is the most significant challenge of adopting this
proposal: To keep it as simple as possible so potential submitters
don't have to use some kind of UBRC magic de-coder ring to figure
out if they're in one of the spots where we solicit records of
review species.
#3. Isn't this an
automatic 'Yes' if we vote in favor of adding the bylaw since the
proposal says, "...a clearly defined sub-region of the state..."?
#4. Our review
list should be species-centric, not eco-region centric. If we
adopt proposal #4, we're basically saying we want multiple review
lists and I don't.
#5. No to number
of sightings for each review list species (too much work for the
webmaster to keep up with it, in my opinion), but yes to a link to
our sightings. Submitters can figure this out for themselves with
a link.
David
- This is likely to open up a can of worms if done on a
overly granular basis. I would be very cautious as to which
species we put on this list.
Kevin
I feel that all the above options unnecessarily complicate the
procedures for the Records committee and make it harder for
submitters to understand, and less likely to submit.
Dennis
I think as a record committee member the proposal has some
merits. But I think it could create unnecessary complications for
the beginning or average birder. I also think there would be an
added workload for the web-master and secretary that I'm not sure
would be that beneficial for the birding public.
Mike Scijf
I support this proposal but it is NOT my preference to establish new
"ecological subregions" that do not follow county-lines. I fear
that this could be a complicated process and difficult for the
public to understand. Instead, I support a process that would
exempt certain species from review from specific counties or
regions that follow county-lines. I understand that this approach
would be less than perfect from a biological standpoint, but
county-lines do represent mini subregions within the state, and I
believe this would be easy to communicate with our local birders.
As an example, all but one of our "accepted" Boreal Owl records
are from Wasatch, Summit, and Duchesne Counties. Clearly these are
places in Utah that most people will recognize. In contrast,
explaining to the average birder where "ecological subregion 1" is
located, and how that boundary was carved out is likely to present
some confusion. Let's keep this simple and not create extra work
for ourselves or the birding public.
I am undecided on #4. IF the idea is to create review lists for
each area, then my answer is that we should start with the
"exemption" idea (with a list of species to exempt for each
county/region), and then if we like how this process is working
after a period of time, we can discuss expanding to create
regional review lists (likely a more intensive process).
In conclusion, each of my "yes" votes above are contingent on a
"county exemption" approach, or a larger regional approach that
follows county-lines. I think that the "clearly defined" wording
is key to this process.
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