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Email from Max Malmquist to the Records
Committee (31 May 2025)
Hello All,
I apologize for not
forwarding this email sooner, the month of May slipped away from me!
In light of some comments in some recent Rosy-finch records, I
wanted to share this email exchange with Jason Kitting regarding
pictures of a young rosy-finch photographed by McKay Olsen and later
my dad and I back in late April up at Alta.
Just so folks know – there
was never a record submitted for this specific bird (although it
likely spurred at least one if not two record submissions). I had
every intention as submitting this as additional information if
Mckay was to have submitted a record, but also realize it is good
information for anyone like myself who isn’t familiar with young
rosy-finch ID.
Jason
Kitting is one of, if
not the go-to Rosy-finch expert from NM that Brian Maxfield sent the
photos to (originally I believe sent by Jeff, and subsequently by me
with my and my
dad’s photos). For additional background, he does Rosy-finch
aging and sexing identification courses for the Western Bird Banding
Association and has been banding rosy-finches for 15 years.
Hope you are all doing well
and are enjoying the tail-end of spring migration.
Good Birding,
Max Malmquist
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Initial email from Max Malmquist to Jason
Kitting (22 April 2025)
Hello Jason,
My name is
Max Malmquist, I work for National Audubon Society’s Saline Lakes
Program based in Salt Lake City, Utah. I also am currently serving
on the Utah Birds Records Committee, which is the primary reason I
am reaching out. I also work closely with Janice Gardner and her
team at Sageland Collaborative, who used to be part of the
Rosy-Finch project here in Utah – the bird world is a small one!
I got your
information through Brian Maxfield, I understand he sent you photos
of a young rosy-finch seen at Alta, Utah on Saturday. I heard that
someone sent the photos to Brian, who in-turn sent them to you. I
understand that you ID’d the bird as a BCRF. There are a number of
folks on the records committee (including myself) that do not have
much experience with young Rosy-finches, in particular Brown-capped.
It is a review species in Utah, and the observer is likely going to
submit a record.
In
anticipation of that – I was wondering if you would be willing to
provide a brief explanation of the ID. In addition to the photos
already sent to you, my dad and I refound the bird the next day and
took additional photos. Here is our checklist (keep in mind it was
in bright sunlight): https://ebird.org/checklist/S227602718
Any
thoughts or explanation on the ID would be greatly appreciated. We
will likely include it in the record itself or as supplemental
information for the record, if that is okay with you.
Let me know
if you have any questions – and thank you in advance!
Cheers,
Max Maliquist |

Photo A - taken by Mike Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo B - taken by Mike Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo C - taken by Mike Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo D - taken by Mike Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo E - taken by Mike Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo F - taken by Mike Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo G - taken by Mike Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photos by Max Malmquist below
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Photo H - taken by Max Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo I - taken by Max Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo J - taken by Max Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Photo K - taken by Max Malmquist at Alta Utah (20 Apr
2025)
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Email from Jason Kitting to Max Malmquist
(25 April 2025)
Hello Max,
Yes I am happy to send a description as well as some photos. I'll
send some of my photos of birds in the hand to show what I'm talking
about in this email, and then I'll send the pictures that Brian sent
me in a separate email. Also I'm glad you got some more pictures of
the bird and I'll admit I'm now more confused about this bird. The
main things I look for when separating young BCRFs and GCRFs is the
crown and the color of the brown on their body. I initially called
this bird a BCRF because of the crown. In BCRFs, the crown feathers
(especially along the side of the crown behind the eye) have grayish
edging but each feather has a dark center. In young GCRFs
(especially young females), the crown is often incomplete and there
may only be gray on the sides of the crown, but each gray feather in
this area is completely gray without a dark center. The brown color
is pretty different too. In BCRFs, the brown is a very light
tannish color, while GCRFs have a darker and deeper chestnut color.
The first two pictures are of a young male and young female BCRFs
and the third picture is a young female GCRF. The GCRF has the
typical amount of gray we see in most GCRFs but I have seen way less
than this but the picture shows the color of the sides of the
crown. The fourth picture is of the BCRF Brian Maxfield
banded and shows the color difference in brown between GCRF and BCRF.
(email continues below)
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Photo 1 - from Jason Kitting (Young male BCRF)
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Photo 2 - from Jason Kitting (Young female BCRF)
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Photo 3 - from Jason Kitting (Young female GCRF)
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Photo 4 - from Jason Kitting (BCRF
- shows the color difference in brown between GCRF and BCRF.)
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In the first pictures I saw of this bird, it
looked to my eye like every feather along the side of the crown had
a dark center. Your pictures don't seem to show this and the bird
seems to have some pure gray feathers along the side of the crown
though VERY little and less than I have seen though more than I've
seen in a young GCRF. The bird also looked a bit dark brown in the
first pics I saw but that seemed to be the lighting. Although this
bird does look lighter brown compared to the GCRF in your last pic,
it doesn't seem super light brown like I'm used to seeing now that I
can see the bird in better light. I hate to say it, but I think I
may have called that bird a little too fast. I think this bird is
probably a very drab young female GCRF, but I would be interested in
hearing what others think as well. Sorry to raise a rare bird alarm
and then change my mind! I'll send the other photos in a separate
email. I've been banding all 3 Rosy-Finch species for 15 years now
and I'm amazed how often I still see confusing birds like this. Let
me know if you need anything else!
Jason Kitting
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Photo 5 - from Jason Kitting
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Photo 6 - from Jason Kitting
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Max Malmquist
Engagement Manager, Saline Lakes Program
(801)-554-8574
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